Michel Jullian writes:
>
> Hi Fred (your reply-to pb isn't fixed BTW)
>
> Thanks for the very documented enlightenment on air nitrogen fixing
plants 
> (legumes), would there be a problem in using them directly as biofuel 
> convertible biomass do you think?

You're welcome. Soydiesel from soybean crops is a hot item these days,
Michel.

You can have your "Tofu Cake" and motor fuel too.  :-)

http://www.soyfoods.com/soyfoodsdescriptions/tofu.html 

http://energy.cas.psu.edu/soydiesel.html

Fred
>
> Michel
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "vortex-l" <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol
>
>
> > Crop rotation fixes the nitrogen energy problem.
> >
> > Using hybrid seed I had no problem getting 120 bushel/acre corn planted
on
> > land that grew soybeans the year before.
> >
> > I doubt the Amish in that northwester Pennsylvania area now, don't
sweat 
> > it either.
> >
> > http://www.princeton.edu/~hos/mike/texts/readmach/zmaczynski.htm
> >
> > "The early 20th century produced three methods to "fix" nitrogen, that
is, 
> > convert it from an inactive gas in the air to nitrogen compounds that 
> > would be further reacted to produce fertilizers or used directly. Two 
> > methods, the electric arc process and the cyanamid process never proved 
> > important in making fertilizer in the United States though they were of 
> > some importance through the first part of this century. The third
process, 
> > the Haber Process, has made a lasting impression on chemical technology 
> > and fertilizers."
> >
> > http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/AG152
> >
> > "All plants must have nitrogen (N) for growth. Approximately 110
million 
> > tons of N are required for the world's annual food production but only
7 
> > million tons are supplied by the fertilizer industry; the rest come
from 
> > legumes. Legumes are plants, like peas, beans, soybean, alfalfa,
clover, 
> > and aeschynomene, that have special bacteria in their rooting system
and 
> > make use of N from the air. The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen gas, and 
> > 21% oxygen. There are ~35,000 tons of free N above every acre of land,
but 
> > this gaseous form is unavailable to plant or animal life. Fortunately, 
> > nature has provided us with a simple and cheap method of obtaining some
of 
> > this N from the atmosphere by the growing of legumes."
> >
> > "Most, but not all legumes have the capacity to fix N. The quantity of
N 
> > fixed depends on several factors, such as (1) the kind of legume, (2)
the 
> > effectiveness of the N-fixing bacteria, (3) the soil conditions
including 
> > pH and N fertilizer, and (4) availability of necessary plant food such
as 
> > carbohydrates, phosphorus (P), potassium (K), magnesium (Mg), calcium 
> > (Ca), iron (Fe), molybdenum (Mo), copper (Cu), and boron (B). For
example, 
> > estimates of N fixed in a growing season for alfalfa are 100-200 lb/A; 
> > berseem clover, 50-210 lb/A; red clover, 50-200 lb/A; white clover,
50-150 
> > lb/A; hairy vetch, 100 lb/A; and aeschynomene, 50-150 lb/A. In soils
that 
> > are well supplied with N fertilizer, there may be little or no fixation 
> > because the plants use available N in the soil and do not encourage the 
> > bacteria to fix more. As a result, the greatest N fixation is obtained
in 
> > soils low in available N."
> >
> > These probably exceed the EPA/s groundwater "nitrate" pollution levels
in 
> > soils.  :-) 



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