Horace.
Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume isotropic
magnetic fields in areas of space, based on local measurements?
Magnetic Mirrors, and the Focus Coils of a CRT for example
can keep charged particles in a straight line.

Fred


> [Original Message]
> From: Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 3/18/2006 8:25:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Cold Fusion & Supernova 1987A]
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Bob Fickle wrote:
>
> > Yes, they will follow the field lines;  but there's not much large- 
> > scale order to the galactic magnetic field, so it's more a  
> > diffusion process, once the particles leave the supernova's  
> > immediate area.   There's no significant recombination- not enough  
> > electrons moving close to the same speed, and even those that did  
> > combine would be broken apart again by collisions with atoms in the  
> > interstellar medium.
>
> With an interstellar density of 1 atom/cm^2 this does indeed appear  
> to be true.  The pulse will remain in plasma form.  However, this  
> then also negates the effect of any ambient magnetic field.
>
> As the fast electrons fly away from the nuclei a large E gradient  
> develops and the electrons and
> nuclei eventually rejoin.  Their relative motion is thermalized, but  
> the net outward kinetic energy remains.  Further, the initial ambient  
> magnetic field is cancelled by the plasma action.  As long as the  
> plasma density is much larger than the interstellar matter density  
> the plasma pulse should travel fairly unimpeded.  I haven't done the  
> calculation, but I would expect this distance to be a lot less than  
> 150,000 ly.
>
> Suppose we view the explosion from the north pole direction of the  
> ambient magnetic field.  The initial ambient magnetic field lines  
> point toward us.  The plasma that comes toward us is unimpeded by the  
> ambient magnetic field.  Plasma traveling in (or with a component  
> motion in) a plane perpendicular to the ambient magnetic field has an  
> ambient field canceling current generated in it.  Outbound nuclei are  
> bent in a clockwise manner by the Lorentz force, electrons are bent  
> in a counterclockwise direction.  This creates a clockwise current  
> from our perspective.  A clockwise current, by the right hand rule,  
> generates a magnetic field that cancels the ambient field that points  
> at us.  Some of the lateral motion due to the induced current is lost  
> to thermalization, but for the most part the plasma will retain the  
> bulk of its outbound  velocity and kinetic energy.  The tiny  
> interstellar magnetic field is cancelled by a nominal current  
> density, thus little heating and little loss of kinetic energy occurs.
>
> > Last I heard, cosmic rays were believed to have an average age in  
> > the galaxy of a few million years- based on ratios of Li/Be/B  
> > isotopes produced in transit.
>
> But this fact implies very little thermalization of, a very long mean  
> free path for, the cosmic rays.  They only have to travel 150,000  
> years to get here, not millions.
>
>
> > Since the LMC is actually outside our galaxy, I think it would be  
> > safe to add a few million more.
>
> If nothing thermalizes the plasma pulse outbound motion, or at least  
> some component of it, then some kind of material shock wave should  
> immediately follow the light pulse and build.
>
> Horace Heffner



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