Grimer wrote,
 
>There are certain advantages is being a quasi modo in the
cathedral of EM.

I suppose being a heretic would be more fun if I had ever been
baptised in the EM church - but then perhaps I would have never
seen the looniness of loops.

Howdy Frank,

Not so loony loops if you follow the mobius strip theme. After all, baptizing a loop donut in coffee can make for a soggy theory if the loop slips between cup and lip and lands in your lap which seldom happens to T.Blair. One needs only to study why a charge is positive or negative to question why anyone would consider a loop de loop. I prefer the cake donuts with the handle because there is something to grasp.

Richard

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