Jones Beene writes.
>
> Robin,
>
> > If you consider the properties of severely shrunken Hydrinos, 
> > you
> > will see that they have much in common with "forgone", including
> > coming from the sun, being "conducted" by various solids, and
> > possibly "turning radioactive" if "kept" too long.
>
> Yes, but the fly in the ointment is that the cell reportedly turns 
> cold during operation...
>
Naturally. Pull a  soft vacuum on water and watch it cool.
>
> If one can suspend disbelief long enough - that problem can be 
> rationalized by saying they [hydrino] are created in the 
> "charging" process and not in the cell itself - and instead cool 
> the cell when they are rejected by the much lower current there 
> and by vacuum from the intake.
>
Almost there, Jones,without any ZPE Red Herrings :-)
The so-called"orgone conditioning process"  rids the cell 
of as many ions as possible except H3O+ and OH- then the high  E field
probably over a million volts/meter created by an H3O+ approaching the
cathode
accelerates an electron into it releasing an activated "pre-hydrino" that
is swept into the cylinder where the compression pressure, temperature,
and spark ignition, and possibly Argon "catalyst" finishes the hydrino
formation
releasing orders of magnitude more energy than the ~ 60,000 BTU/lb
from burning H2. 
Hence the erroneous claim that "it doesn't use the water catalyst".
>
> This actually fits into my belief about the thermodynamics of 
> hydrino formation. I have always felt that making then is 
> endothermic and the excess energy comes only when they are 
> re-expanded back to ground state - and only then do they take that 
> energy from ZPE. I am in a distinct minority on that - as Mills 
> poo-poohs ZPE but nothing he has done in the Lab cannot be 
> explained as well or better by ZPE than by his own theory.
>
I doubt that ZPE pumping will be seen below megajoules per cubic meter
energy densities.
>
Snip for brevity.
>
Fred

>
> Jones 



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