Jones Beene writes. > > Robin, > > > If you consider the properties of severely shrunken Hydrinos, > > you > > will see that they have much in common with "forgone", including > > coming from the sun, being "conducted" by various solids, and > > possibly "turning radioactive" if "kept" too long. > > Yes, but the fly in the ointment is that the cell reportedly turns > cold during operation... > Naturally. Pull a soft vacuum on water and watch it cool. > > If one can suspend disbelief long enough - that problem can be > rationalized by saying they [hydrino] are created in the > "charging" process and not in the cell itself - and instead cool > the cell when they are rejected by the much lower current there > and by vacuum from the intake. > Almost there, Jones,without any ZPE Red Herrings :-) The so-called"orgone conditioning process" rids the cell of as many ions as possible except H3O+ and OH- then the high E field probably over a million volts/meter created by an H3O+ approaching the cathode accelerates an electron into it releasing an activated "pre-hydrino" that is swept into the cylinder where the compression pressure, temperature, and spark ignition, and possibly Argon "catalyst" finishes the hydrino formation releasing orders of magnitude more energy than the ~ 60,000 BTU/lb from burning H2. Hence the erroneous claim that "it doesn't use the water catalyst". > > This actually fits into my belief about the thermodynamics of > hydrino formation. I have always felt that making then is > endothermic and the excess energy comes only when they are > re-expanded back to ground state - and only then do they take that > energy from ZPE. I am in a distinct minority on that - as Mills > poo-poohs ZPE but nothing he has done in the Lab cannot be > explained as well or better by ZPE than by his own theory. > I doubt that ZPE pumping will be seen below megajoules per cubic meter energy densities. > Snip for brevity. > Fred
> > Jones

