Jones Beene wrote.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Frederick Sparber
>
> "Positron emission of Potassium-40  (in all naturally occurring 
> Potassium) converts the nucleus to the (99%) abundant Argon-40 
> atom.  Indigenous Electronium in Argon-40?"
>
>
> Nice addition to Joe's Down-Home Diner, Fred - we seem to be 
> getting somewhere. I hope it is towards a nice meal. I propose 
> that we call it the Spargone Blue-Plate Special
>
Maybe Fargone Argon, Perhaps?
>
> We have now managed to combine 4-5 far-out ideas: electronium, the 
> Joe_Cell, the Larson reciprocal system (and below) "efficient" 
> Argon emission, the Auger cascade and the Papp engine into 
> something completely unexpected. The catch-of-the day ... on 
> Vortex
>
You left out the Canadian "Lawn Mower Man", Jones.
Microwave oven magnetron pulsed into a lawnmower engine,wasn't it?
>
> ... along with a concluding Sunday-morning anti-mainstream homily. 
> Perhaps it is all closer to SciFi than to HighSci. Time will tell.
>
> And if it turns out (first of many "if") that the electronium 
> triad (e-)* is being formed following a 40K decay, then that entity 
> will very likely take up residence in the k-shell of the resultant 
> Argon, due to its higher mass. This would be expected, no? /even 
> if the triad is transitory.
>
The deepest totally stripped Regular Electron affinity for any atom is 13.6
* Z^2 eV.
Thus for totally stripped Argon 13.6 * 18^2 = 4406 eV.
OTOH,  Electronium could be anywhere in cloud, or is it crowd, if you're a
visitor from the far east? 
>
> However, I think the most likely modality for the overall 
> mechanics of the situation in the Joe_Cell is this - when a 
> hydronium ion encounters the approach of a heavy-Ar atom (one with 
> an electronium substituted for a k-shell electron) - the proton 
> from the hydronium ion is occasionally drawn into the inner orbit 
> of the Ar by the Coulomb-well of the Argon outer electrons - and 
> into the outer reaches of the k-shell where it can sometimes 
> capture the electronium which is plodding along in comparative 
> slo-mo in that locale. Following which, an Auger cascade results.
>
Possible.
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> In the few milliseconds available - this can even happen more than 
> once. The ultimate source of energy is Puthoff's ZPE which in 
> theory maintains the stability of the k-shell and all the others 
> "as well".
>
Red Herring on the side?
>
> For this modality to provide kinetic energy it must take place in 
> the combustion chamber itself - and there the added compression, 
> plus the spark-advance is what starts the process of forcing the 
> hydronium's proton into the Argon k-shell.
>
Anywhere the proton gets into the Argon's electron cloud will do.
>
> Microwave energy would probably work better than the spark.
>
That was the "Lawnmower Man's claim.
>
>  That  is probably one reason why the BLP process works as well as it 
> does. If Mills were to use heavy argon - as defined above, who 
> knows but he might get a rather substantial explosion.
>
> The auger cascade of Argon will give about 5000 times more energy 
> than hydrocarbon combustion - per unit of molecular weight. Again 
> the prime source of energy is ZPE -operating though the k-shell.
>
1000 times would be spectacular.
>
> Obviously, very little of this speculation above is now being 
> optimized in the operation of a normal Joe_Cell and that is (could 
> be) why some of them work and some do not - often depending on 
> "the water."
>
Or weather?
>
> I would suggest that proper charging of the water should be done 
> in potassium-laced cell in order to guarantee the maximum amount 
> of heavy-Ar is dissolved. Argon can be added from a tank in 
> addition (see below).
>
Etch the Stainless with dissolved CO2 - Carbonic Acid first.
>
> Another improvement would be a totally "closed" system (recycled 
> gases). Since there is no combustion anyway in these systems 
> (reportedly) and since most of the heavy Ar will not fully 
> participate on a single pass - it would be far better to operated 
> the engine in a closed-cycle mode... then the extra Argon added 
> from a tank is not wasted.
>
Yes.
>
> Hmmm....
>
Wankel engine Mazda's do Hmmm.   :-)
>
> Kind of reminds one of the Papp engine - no?
>
Feynman didn't win them all.

Fred
>
> Jones
>
> Hmmm... sound to me that the only reason the Papp engine may have 
> worked on occasion is when he got some hydrogen contamination in 
> the argon. Argon was always there in his mixes, it seems - or else 
> if the "radioactive" plug (often mentioned) contained 40K, or 
> another beta emitter, as the radioactive species - so that (e-)* 
> was present....
>
> ... well, as a historical footnote: its too bad that R. Feynman 
> was such as dufuss do-gooder-turned-killer (at a Papp 
> demonstration). He could have probably figured this modality 
> himself out some time ago, had he been possessed with a more open 
> mind... QED notwithstanding.
>                       
> For those who do not remember - and Feynman's apologists are quick 
> to try to rewrite history: there was a public display of the Papp 
> engine in a parking lot in Torrance, California in 1968 - which 
> attracted none other than Nobel Laureate Richard Feynman. The 
> modified four cylinder Volvo engine on a test stand in the parking 
> lot was controlled by engine electronics run from a 120 volt 
> extension cord plugged into the building 100 feet away.
>
> Feynman saw the extension cord and, genius that he was, decided 
> that he knew the source of the hoax he was so convinced it was a 
> hoax that he pulled the plug, but the engine continued to run !!
>
> And for some time.
>
> After about two minutes, the engine had not slowed down (running 
> about 3000 rpm, as evidenced by the fan left on the engine to 
> produce a visible effect) but started to run rough.
>
> Papp grew nervous and argued with Feynman to plug it back in. 
> Feynman refused, so Papp yanked the cord from Feynman and plugged 
> it in. The engine exploded, killing one bystander. Feynman accused 
> Papp of placing explosives in the engine so it would be destroyed 
> before legitimate testing could be done, in order to keep the hoax 
> alive. Since a fatality occurred, the FBI got involved. No 
> evidence of explosives was found. Papp sued Feynman and Feynman 
> and Caltech settled out of court for what would today be in the 
> millions of dollars. Caltech, of course, had liability insurance 
> and not only that, the reputation of their "star" to uphold.
>
> If it were a hoax, there is no way Caltech would have settled out 
> of court. It was done so Feynman and Caltech could save face.
>
> IF - and this is a huge IF - the Papp engine is ultimately seen to 
> have been the solution to the present energy crisis. And even 
> bigger IF - if the tenets of QED are involved in its operation - 
> then one wonders what history will remember of the "genius" 
> Feynman ?
>
> Will a fraction of the body count in Iraq be added (in a rewriting 
> of history) to the genius-Feynman's present death toll of 1... in 
> the quashing of Free-energy ??
>
> Hmmm... Sorry for the rant... is it a full moon again ? 



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