--- Frederick Sparber wrote:

> OTOH, treating the Cell as a stacked series of
cylindrical electrolytic capacitors doesn't do much
either.  Unless the approximately 0.7 square meter
Metal-Water Helmholtz Double-Layer Interface in the
Cell under low pressure boiling conditions is 
generating Beta Aether-Casimir
Force-ZPE-Supercapacitor   "Exploding Capacitor" OU
Effect "gases". Maybe?

Yes. There is big conflict between using the best
dielectric medium (pure water) and then getting it to
charge easily and rapidly using conventional
techniques at low voltage. That is why the only
scenario which works for the "Exploding Capacitor" OU
Effect surely must have something to do with an
surface induction effect (capacitive coupling effect
?) on the aether itself (the epo field). 

That is: by way of polarizing positronium and the sea
of virtual positronium which is known to exist (known
even to mainstream physics). It would be a very
temporary and transitory thing, and probably would
depend on maximizing surface contact in the cell and
micro-bubble formation - and then the expedient use of
the plasma "capacitor".

This explanatory thread is not as far out as it may
seem - (as are most of the other possible Joe-Cell
explanations) and furthermore this is NOT "just" idle
speculation - in the sense that it is easily amenable
to proof - or at least in finding the tell-tale
signature of virtual Ps disruption - which would be
the 6.8 eV UV emission. 

The 6.8 eV value is the I.P. (ionization poetnetial)
of Ps; and this UV signature would be the  tell-tale
proof that the ZPE energy level is being cohered
(disrupted) in such a putative situation. Consequently
- finding that UV signature would be the key first
step in putting this on a scinetific basis - but this
is achievable (with minimum funding).

Unfortunately, my phone has not exactly been ringing
off the hook with parties interested in funding this
type of thing, and all indications are that the
Joe-cell is likely to remain on the far fringe of
science, pending some verifiable results.

It's really too bad that the "orgone" thing ever came
up with this device, if it does occasionally work as
claimed - as that word alone is poisonous to
credibility, given the historical shenannigans of
Reich.

... all of which is curious, since orgone itself may
well be just another way of saying "mysterious UV
emission". And given the example mentioned in the
BillB essay (of the nanobe culture) there is some
reason to believe that orgone and UV ( from Ps decay)
may be one-and-the-same.

Try convincing a mainstream physicist of that... HA!
there's the rub... they buy into virtual-Ps without
any argument, but just try to take that to the next
step - which is "extending the interface of the
virtual and the real" ... one of my favorite
pastimes...

Jones


> Slight problems.
> 
> The resistivity of high purity (de-ionized) water
> runs about 15 Megohm-cm at 26 C.
> 
> With the cylindrical configuration of the Cell,
> unless it was filled with 30 ohm-cm
> seawater the most current attainable using a 12 volt
> battery  with 1500 ohm-cm
> water (4 orders of magnitude reduction in
> resistivity)  would be less 
> than 1.0 ampere.
> About 2.5 amperes would be attainable by hooking all
> of the concentric 
> cylinders surrounding the tubular cathode, to the
> anode instead of "floating" them. 
> 
> OTOH, treating the Cell as a stacked series of
> cylindrical electrolytic capacitors
> doesn't do much either.  :-)
> 
> Fred

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