Jones,

There was a remarkable engine developed at JPL by E.A Laumann, about 1976, that ran on Hydrogen and Argon. I'm pretty sure it was patented by NASA. As I recall, the efficiency exceeded that possible with fuel cells. It was a reinforced diesel with unusually high compression

A paper was presented at the Second World Energy Hydrogen Conference, in 1978, by P.C.T. de Baer and Jean-Francois Hulet, both of Cornell. The title was Performance of a Hydrogen-Oxygen-Noble Gas Engine. A copy is in our files.

You may find both of these are pertinent to your idea.

Mark






From: Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: The Pappajo engine
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 07:28:37 -0700 (PDT)

Is the following Satyr, or Satire ?

Here is a suggestion for an engine which purports to
operate somewhat in the manner of the both the Papp
engine and also the no-Joe variant (non-orgone) which
has been suggested to use an
exploding-plasma-capacitor modality.

The plumbing is somewhat reminiscent of the Naudin
setup which he calls "BingoFuel" - insomuch as the
exhaust is recirculated... except that this one
operates without any fuel at all, and ALL of the
exhaust is recirculated, and zero new air is brought
in. Actually no air was there to begin with - only
argon gas.

IOW the exhaust of an ICE is ported into a large
water-filled multi-plate capacitor, kept at low
voltage. One could possibly use an old auto battery
(drained) for the capacitor as does Dingel. However,
316 stainless steel seems to have some value for the
plates. The concentric design is a red herring.

First, it should be realized that a huge variation
over anything prior is that instead of air, the only
gas in the system is argon. In this regard it has some
of the Papp modality as well, but in that engine there
was no circulation, and gases other than argon, and no
certainly physical micro-bubbling of H2O.

In this engine argon is sucked through a capacitor and
the mix of water micro-bubbles and argon is
compressed. An actual spark may not be needed, but if
so - a plasma plug should be used. These plasma plugs
were once available from a company in Idaho.

Is the PappaJo concept a vibrant hybrid of two
misunderstood designs- or the bastard Satyr of a
misguided imagination ?

Jones



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