: Michel Jullian wrote
>
>
> Fred wrote:
> >> So here is CHEMIX's thermochemistry answer for the reaction we
discussed
> >> (copy-paste):
> >>
> >> 2H2(g) + O2(g) = 2H2O(l) + 571.6kJ
> >>
> >> which solves the controversy (produced energy is equal to
-dH=572kJ/mol,
> > not
> >> to -dG=474kJ/mol), doesn't it Fred?   :)))
> >>
> > I'm not sure, Michel. The heat of formation from the elements dH is
> > 2 x 498,000 for 2 H2 molecules from 4 H atoms and 498,000 for an O2
> > molecule
> > from 2 O atoms.
> > Then you have to break 3 x 498,000 = 1.49E6 kJ  to form 2 H2Omolecules
> > from 4 H  atoms + 2 O atoms ---> H-O-H + H-O-H (4 x 498 kJ) - (3 x 498
kJ)
> > = 498 kJ
> >
> > Which implies that 571.6 kJ - 498 kJ = 73.6 kJ is the heat given up
> > by the two H2O molecules when cooled from a hot gas to liquid H2O
> > in the calorimeter???.
>
> _Moles_ of atoms/molecules you mean Fred. Yes that's about it. Had you
used 
> more accurate bond energies, instead of 73.6 kJ you would have found 88
kJ, 
> i.e. twice the water condensation energy 44kJ per mole of H2O (1 mole of
H2O 
> = 18g = 6.02*10^23 molecules of H2O)
>
> Controversy solved?
>
Yes, but to show how the dH values vary check out this URL
on Hess' Law.

http://wine1.sb.fsu.edu/chm1045/notes/Energy/HessLaw/Energy04.htm

Fred
>
> Michel
>
>



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