In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Sun, 4 Jun 2006 12:38:24
+0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>So here is CHEMIX's thermochemistry answer for the reaction we discussed 
>(copy-paste):
>
>2H2(g) + O2(g) = 2H2O(l) + 571.6kJ
>
>which solves the controversy (produced energy is equal to -dH=572kJ/mol, not 
>to -dG=474kJ/mol), doesn't it Fred?   :)))

According to:-

>http://webbook.nist.gov/chemistry/form-ser.html.en-us.en

delta Hgas = -241.826 kJ/mole and deltaHliquid = -285.830 kJ/mole.

IOW both answers are correct, depending on whether the water forms
as a vapor or as a liquid. As I understand it the difference is
the heat of condensation + any heat derived from the cooling of
the liquid. You need to look at the specific circumstances of any
given experiment to determine which answer is "correct".

In a car engine the water clearly forms as a vapor, and exits the
engine as such. Unless waste heat is recovered from the exhaust,
the energy of condensation is lost.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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