Subject: Water Injection

Water injection systems are often used in turbo charged cars to cool the compressed boost air which does the same as raising the octane, lessening the chance of preignition (spark knock). But is something more going on?

Why not just use the Joe Cell charged water and this home made water injector:

http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000393047637/

Some of the follow on comments are interesting.


Very sharp! Holy-ram....

Inject the "preconditioned" or charged-water, instead of normal water, and one can dispense with a lot of the problems of getting the water ions into the combustion chamber "just-in-time" ...?

The problem would be keeping them from being neutralized by the injector itself. Wonder if that can be solved by floating it (and the engine too) at a negative potential?

Come to think of it... this is all so sharp that it is merging into the idea of Jimmy Lee (of Sharper Image fame) ... except it is going one-better for both Jimmy and Joe and Yull.

BTW, as posted before by Mark Goldes, a few years back Jimmy Lee slapped a Sharper Image ionizer onto this VW diesel truck:
http://www.zenion.com/news.html

and reported incredible mileage (something like ~100 MPG ?) before the valves burned-out (after a few days, due to ionic corrosion)... His patent is close to expiring now.

You really need a ceramic valveless engine for proper implementation of charged-water-fuel, at least eventually. That is why these guys in Oz are using el-cheapo engines, and that necessity is causing mixed results as the engine itself has been through the wringer, as they say.

If the thing runs on water, and you want some verification - then you better get the eye-witnesses there PDQ, because the lifetime of valves, under charged-oxidizing conditions, is measured in hours. Fortunately old, oil-encrusted valves probably last longer than new ones.

I vote for a ceramic Wankel as the ideal way to go for the long term ...

If the Prius cost $1 billion to engineer, this baby will be pushing ten - but who cares if it runs on water? actually who cares if it gets 100 MPG on gasoline + charged water?

Jones


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