Might the Joe Cell "Processing/Electrolysis" be setting up conditions where
the "combustion" in an ICE effects the uptake of Electronium by H+ ions? 

> [Original Message]
> From: Frederick Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 6/8/2006 8:14:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Electronium (Bound Ps-) Orbits vs Fractional Electron Orbits
>
>  Michel Jullian wrote:
> >
> > Hi Fred, a very good idea to do such maths after the hydrino radiuses
law
> discussion!
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "vortex-l" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: Electronium (Bound Ps-) Orbits vs Fractional Electron
Orbits
> >
> >
> > > The potential  V of a `particle with charge - q at a distance r 
> > > from a particle with charge + q equals  V = k*q/r  independent
> > > of the mass of either particle. k = 1/4(pi)eo
> > > 
> > > Hence an electron of mass 2 * 9.1E-31 kg (Electronium) has the same
> potential
> > > at r = 5.29E-11 meters as a  regular electron with mass 9.1E-31 kg.
> >
> > Indeed.
> >
> > > 
> > > The velocity v = [2 V*q/r * (1/m)]^1/2  = [2 V*q/r (1/2m)]^1/2 at that
> > > point is also the same (c * alpha or c/137 at a distance 
> > > r = 5.29E-11 meters, the bohr radius).
> >
> > Where does this come from?
> >
> The velocity in the classical Bohr ground state orbit. For the purest
> a "Group Velocity" invoking the "Fine Structure Constant "Alpha" =
> 0.00729729
> where c is the speed of light "Phase Velocity" or mcr = hbar = [h/2(pi)]
> >
> > > 
> > > OTOH, in order to equate an orbital centripetal force (Fc) mv^2/r with
> > > a balancing electrostatic force (Fes) kq^2/r^2:
> > > 
> > > mv^2/r = kq^2/r^2   r = kq^2/mv^2 
> >
> > Yes, I suppose relativistic effects can be neglected at c/137, and QM
> effects ignored for now. The rest is not obvious to me, maybe you will
have
> enlightened me when I'll be back? (must be off right now)
> >
> Relativistic "Gamma" =  E (kinetic)/Eo (mc^2) + 1 = [1/1- (v^2/c^2)]^1/2
> doesn't
> get very pronounced at 218 eV (3.488E-17 joules) where mc^2 for the
regular 
> electron equal 8.19E-14 Joule:  (3.488E-17/8.19E-14) + 1 = 1.000425  less
> yet
> for a mass 2 * electron  (Electronium) mass.
>
> I'm trying to enlighten myself on where an Electronium (stable/bound Ps-
> particle) ground state 
> orbit will be. Then show that when it is shaken loose from atoms/molecules
> and
> taken up by the H+ ion,with release of energy exceeding the 13.6 eV bohr
> ground state,
>  it is what Mills is calling a 'Fractional Orbit Electron-Hydrino".
>
> Without writing a book and unsettling the orthodox scientific
> establishment. :-)
>
> Fred
>
>  
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > > 
> > > It seems that a particle with mass 2m * v^2 will orbit at 1/2 the
> > > bohr orbit radius of an electron with a potential V * q/0.5r
> > > = 54.4 volts at an orbital velocity of  v = [2 V*q/0.5r * (1/2m)]^1/2
> > > equal 3.1E6 meters/sec  (the square root of 2 (1.414)  times c/137).
> > > 
> > > But, in order to satisfy quantum integers of c/137 velocity 
> > > requirements n (c/137)  velocity  v = 4.378E6 meters/sec  and 
> > > radius r' = kq^2/2mv^2 = 6.61E-12 meters 
> > > and  potential V = kq/r'  = 218 volts.
> > > 
> > > Fred
>
>



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