Please Mark there are more adequate places for OS wars I am sure. I understand 
your point of view I used to be a MacOS fan myself but I don't care much about 
the OS I use any more, they all look so much the same now.

Thanks for the info on Bill's backlog, we may get his answer re the [Vo] tag in 
about 8 weeks then :) Am I the only one to pine for this feature BTW?

Michel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark S Bilk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: How to put a [Vo] tag in the message Subject line


> On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 12:24:40PM +0200, Michel Jullian wrote:
>>Thanks Mark for the nice recipe, but it won't work for 
>>Windows users, 
> 
> Maybe if you read this you won't want to use Windows any more
> (except for games and such that won't run under Linux and don't
> have an equivalent there).  Microsoft is a very evil corporation:
> 
> http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/
> 
>>and putting a tag in the subject line is a
>>standard function in any mailing list server I would think,
> 
> True.
> 
>>can't this be done on eskimo.com lists Bill?
> 
> Apparently he's pretty busy -- 8 weeks backlog of e-mails 
> according to his note on this page:
> 
> http://amasci.com/amateur/amfrmA.html#urls
> 
>>Or maybe it's time to switch to Googlegroups or Yahoogroups?
> 
> I don't know about Googlegroups, but the delay through 
> Yahoogroups is several hours, instead of the few minutes through
> eskimo.com.  Yahoo is also very mercenary.  When it started out
> offering mailing lists, as ISPs were dropping that service, it
> did not insert advertising into the lists, and also had short
> delays, so people moved their lists to it.  Once it had the lists,
> Yahoo started running ads, censoring e-mail addresses in the 
> messages, and allowing the turnaround delays to get longer and 
> longer.
> 
> And apparently Yahoo has recently begun to arbitrarily filter out 
> a lot of legitimate messages as "spam", just as AOL has been 
> politically censoring its incoming mail for over a year.  
> 
> The topics discussed in this list are potentially a threat to 
> the profits of the tiny ultra-wealthy clique that controls most 
> of the world's economy, government and media.  These rulers have 
> murdered a million people in the last few years alone to obtain
> control over oil deposits, new military bases, and restriction
> of ordinary people's freedom.
> 
> I've noticed that the lives of a number of "free-energy" inventors 
> seem to have ended prematurely.
> 
> We all need to become much more aware of the ruthless businessmen
> that are destroying our planet and enslaving and murdering our
> people.  We should disconnect ourselves from mercenary and fascist
> corporations like Yahoo and Microsoft, and choose pro-human 
> alternatives.
> 
>  Mark
> 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mark S Bilk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:22 PM
>>Subject: How to put a [Vo] tag in the message Subject line
>>
>>
>>>I use the Linux operating system on my PC instead of 
>>> Microsoft Windows, for ethical and technical reasons 
>>> explained on my website: 
>>> 
>>> http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/
>>> 
>>> If you're using procmail to process your incoming mail, 
>>> in, e.g., Linux, BSD, OSX, etc., you can insert a [Vo]
>>> (or similar) tag into the Subject line of incoming vortex-l 
>>> messages by adding this "recipe" (as such entries are called) 
>>> to your .procmailrc file:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> :0 fhw
>>> * ^X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]>
>>> * !^Subject: .*\[Vo.*\]
>>> | sed 's/^Subject: /&[Vo] /'
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The first line begins the recipe.  The "f" flag causes the pipe
>>> command in the fourth line to act as a filter for the message,
>>> i.e., the message is processed through it and procmail then 
>>> continues testing further recipes to handle the filtered 
>>> (modified) version of the message.  The "h" flag causes the 
>>> message header (not the body) to be fed to the pipe command.  
>>> The "w" flag causes procmail to wait until the pipe finishes 
>>> execution before proceeding.
>>> 
>>> The second line tests that the message contains the header line
>>> "X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]>", which all vortex-l 
>>> messages do (at least the recent ones that I looked at).  This
>>> is the main test to detect that the message comes from the list.
>>> Some messages don't contain the list name in the "To:" header
>>> line, or even the "Cc:" line (if the list was named in the 
>>> "Bcc:" line by the poster).
>>> 
>>> The third line of the recipe tests that the Subject line of the
>>> message does not already contain a string of the form [Vo...]
>>> or [vo...].  If people use this method to add a [Vo] tag to 
>>> incoming vortex-l messages and then they respond to the messages, 
>>> their outgoing responses will contain the tag in the Subject line, 
>>> and it will be received as such by list subscribers.  So procmail
>>> should not add a second tag to such received messages.  The 
>>> regular expression \[Vo.*\] is used so that any tag with square 
>>> brackets beginning with Vo will be detected ( [Vo], [vortex], 
>>> [Vort], etc. ).  Since procmail test conditions use egrep-style 
>>> regular expressions, the square brackets have to be escaped 
>>> (with "\") so they act as ordinary characters (rather than having 
>>> their special meaning as part of regular expression syntax).
>>> 
>>> The fourth line pipes the message header through the sed 
>>> (stream-editor) program to perform the actual insertion of the 
>>> tag into the Subject line.  When sed finds the string "Subject: "
>>> at the beginning ("^") of a header line, it substitutes ("s")
>>> something for that.  What it substitutes is what it just found 
>>> ("&"), followed by the string "[Vo] ".  Since sed uses the 
>>> earlier grep-style regular expressions, the square brackets act 
>>> as ordinary characters when they are _not_ escaped by "\".
>>> 
>>> You can replace [Vo] in the fourth line with [Vortex], [Vort],
>>> [vortex-l], etc., to suit your taste, as long as it has square
>>> brackets and begins with "vo" (in upper or lower case), so it
>>> will be detected by the third line of the recipe when it comes 
>>> back through the list server.
>>> 
>>> There are plenty of procmail tutorials on the Web; just google
>>> for "procmail".  This is a rather esoteric usage for it.  Mostly
>>> I just use it to divert messages from certain idiots (none on 
>>> this list) into spam files, which is much simpler.  Regular 
>>> expressions, and sed, are also pretty simple once you get familiar 
>>> with them, and they're extremely useful.
>>> 
>>> In general, Linux is as easy to use as MS-Windows, if you have
>>> someone install it for you (which your local Linux user group
>>> will do for free -- see my website), like the PC store installs 
>>> Windows.  And it's much more powerful and reliable, as well as free.
>>> 
>>> And if you want respect, well, it's absolutely essential:
>>> 
>>> http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf
>>> 
>>>  Mark
>>> 
>>>
>

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