Michel Jullian  (The new broom of Vo) wrote:  :-)
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> Fred wrote:
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> >A single electron orbiting"Hydrogenic" atom has a Potential V = 13.6 *
Z^2 volts
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> Wrong for H in any case, it's 27.2V Fred (did you get my 2nd post of
yesterday in thread "Electronium (Bound Ps-) Orbits vs Fractional Electron
Orbits"?).
>
The last I heard the proton H+ has 13.6 eV "potential energy" at the ground
state Bohr Radius
5.29E-11 meters. V = k*q/2r = 1.44E-9/(2*5.29E-11) = 13.6 eV
For Oxygen 8+, (hydrogenic) 870 eV, Scandium 21+, 5998 eV etc,
with a bunch of shell groups of lower energy electrons betwixt and between.
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> > 
> > Thus for  hydrogen Z = 1, V = 13.6 and for oxygen Z = 8,  13.6 * 64 =
870 volts
> > Argon 13.6 Z^2 = 13.6 * 18^2 =  4,406 volts, Potassium 4910 volts etc.
> > 
> > Since the potential  V at a distance r  from a charge = k * q/2r volts
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> V=k * q/r  (cf same post, come on you had it right two days ago)
>
That is total energy, Potential plus Kinetic.A 0.5 kilogram raindrop
(hailstones like those
that trashed my roof in October 2004) formed at 1 Km or more  has  a
potential energy of mgh, 
but while it is falling it's gaining kinetic energy too. No?
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> > and the
> > Electrostatic attractive or repulsive force Fes = k  * Z1 * Z2 *
q^2/r^2, how 
> > close can a bare proton (H+) approach a hydrogenic (one electron) atom?
> > 
> > Or, how far into an oxygen atom of an H2O molecule does a hydrogen atom
> > need to go in order to capture one of the high energy inner shell
electrons of the
> > oxygen atom which can then be taken up to orbit the proton with the
same energy
> > it had in it's oxygen orbit, allowing that one of the outer (low
energy) electrons
> > of the H2O molecule will replace the proton-captured oxygen electron
with
> > a commensurate energy release?
>
> well it's exactly...
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> > Prompt answer not required.  :-)
>
> ... oh I won't tell you then ;)
>
Please do. I want to see if high energy "fractional orbit" hydrinos are
formed in the 
water molecules in an ICE after "Preconditioning" in the Joe Cell.
Do they evaporate out of the "highly conductive-syrupy liquid polywater" of
the Cell
as Dimers  (H2OH2O) ?

Fred
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> Michel
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