In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:23:35 -0400: Hi, [snip] >>, not only in the form of classical photons but also and more >>importantly as virtual photons. Thus extracting some of this energy >>(and seemingly gaining energy from "nowhere") does not violate >>thermodynamic principles. > >It sure does violate those principles. No fuel is consumed, no matter >annihilated.
This isn't necessarily so. It's possible that all matter derives it's mass from the interaction of charge with the ZPE field. If so, then devices such as these may actually function by converting a tiny fraction of the mass of each individual constituent particle to energy, and said mass would then be restored from the ZPE. Of course this results in a minuscule reduction in the energy of the ZPE throughout the Universe, but I think we can miss that little bit, especially when you consider that it hasn't really been lost anyway, just converted from one form to another. In this way one might see such a device as a negative entropy generator, where the random energy of the ZPE is converted into a more coherent and useful form. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
