If you have the time and a broadband connection ... [and perhaps you should make time, if you are interested in the full range of alternative-energy options], then courtesy of Google video (beta software) and Sterling Allan, there is a new crop of videos mostly from Oz, purporting to show vehicles running on treated (electrolyzed) water (variations of the JC or Joe-cell).

Here is an short one -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7785149275674305332&q=joe+cell

but the newer ones are running over an hour in length and greatly in need of editing. The new Google video software simplifies this and will list them in the right hand column. I have found the time to view them all, and there are many hours worth. Some have already been removed, as disk-space is always a problem with videos.

Unless they are all "pure fraud", and let me add a massively-coordinated and senseless fraud (since no one is asking for money), then this is something to get excited about. Really excited, depending on how resilient is you ability to "suspend disbelief" and keep an open mind amid the non-scientific demeanor of the mechanics who are doing this. Maybe it is 'something' in the Fosters. After all, isn't the hops used in beer supposedly related, in the plant world, to cannabis?

Otherwise, there can be little in the way of self-deception in such circumstances - as the engine, fueled with treated water, is running for extended periods - consequently either we have pure, senseless fraud -or else this is the makings of the discovery of the century. THE NEXT BIG THING. Plain and simple.

There is little room for a middle ground. Even if some of the energy used to power these autos is being provided by burning lubricating oil (and they are mostly old engines for obvious reasons), it is still a major discovery. One guy is claiming 70 kilometers per liter of water, and even if he is burning a quart of oil in addition, it is still amazing and highly marketable as such. There are nearly one hundred of these JC conversion in NSW Australia, it is claimed. Mind-boggling to say the least (that is: if not an outright deception or a good laugh. Aussie-style).

Personally, my take on it is this: if it were it not for the number and diversity of these videos and claims (and a few in the US and Europe) then it would look more like fraud or a good knee-slapping joke than anything real. That is because the implications are so very revolutionary - *impossible* really.

Apparently the upcoming demo for the US in Salt Lake City is still possible for next month - so it will be interesting to see where we are at the end of July.

Jones

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