Dear Vo,
I often come across the following turn of phrase, or some variation thereof:
"xxxxx cannot happen by any means I know of"
The critical element:
".... that I know of...."
Is it possible empirical evidence will show all of those
willing there may be some mechanism that we do NOT know of???
This is the great interest and fun of experimentalism.
Opinion.
JH
On 6/28/06, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
One aspect of Mizuno's recent results bothers me. In some cases, he reports
significant excess hydrogen without anomalous excess heat, or with only a
little excess heat. I do not see how this could be, if the hydrogen comes
from pyrolysis. It seems to me that if heat is causing pyrolysis, there must
be far more heat than normal, so you would expect to see both excess heat
and excess hydrogen.
Assume there is no anomalous excess heat. In that case, because the excess
hydrogen carries off enthalpy, the total heat from the reaction should be
considerably less than the amount expected from ordinary electrolysis. Yet
the heat balance is usually close to the expected level. How could there be
just enough anomalous heat to split the water, carry off enthalpy, and
reduce overall measurable heat right back down to the level you see with
ordinary electrolysis?
Actually, another paper reports similar results:
Iizumi, K., et al. Heat Measurement During Plasma Electrolysis. in The 12th
International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2005.
Yokohama, Japan.
Unfortunately, I do not have permission to upload to this, but anyway, the
conclusion is:
"The energy balances during plasma electrolyses were 100~102% and a clear
excess energy could not be detected in the experiments this time. The
current efficiencies during plasma electrolyses were 115~122%. Furthermore,
a small amount of CO2 was also detected during plasma electrolyses by means
of Gas Chromatograph. . . ."
Assuming these observations are correct, I think they preclude the simple
model of excess heat causing excess hydrogen. Some other highly energetic
reaction must be occurring, and this fractures the water directly. I cannot
imagine what it would be. The explosion experienced by Mizuno during the
first minutes of electrolysis is also a complete mystery that does not fit
any model or expectation. I have a feeling the two are related.
- Jed
