In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:18:49 -0400: Hi, [snip] >For one overall run, >electrolysis alone would have produced 460 cc of hydrogen and 1470 cc >of gas was produced instead. There was no corresponding heat deficit, >but there was also no large heat excess, which I find very baffling >if the excess gas is caused by excess heat. I surmise that some third >reaction -- a high energy reaction -- directly causes both the excess >hydrogen and the heat.
There may be an alternative solution. If I am not mistaken, Mizuno bases the amount of hydrogen expected from electrolysis on the DC current consumed by the cell. However we know that the system contains multiple high frequency AC components. Surely then it follows that by shuttling back and forth (i.e. AC), any given electron may perform multiple electrolysis reactions. This would allow the actual electrolysis current "at the coal face" to be much higher than the DC current supplied to the cell, while at the same time the energy balance would remain at unity (within measurement error). Effectively the cell itself is reducing the voltage to the electrolysis voltage, and boosting the current to match. The inherent inductance and capacitance are forming a tank circuit which conserves energy, and effectively converts "high voltage;low current" into "low voltage;high current". If this concept is correct, then the maximum amount by which the hydrogen produced can exceed that expected from the original DC current is Vin/1.2 (if the cell runs cold) or Vin/1.48 (if it runs warm). Assuming the latter, we get for various values of Vin:- 80 V/ 1.48 V = 54 times. 100 V/ 1.48 V => 67 times. 350 V/ 1.48 V => 236 times. ...so a figure of 80 would not be all that surprising. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.

