Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas malloy"
It amazes me, Kyle and Fred, that having read the Joe Cell file, you
missed the point, which is that the energy involved is orgone or chi.
I've never seen orgone work, so all I can say is build the cell and
see if it works. If it does than someone deserves a trip to
Stockholm, but given the resistance to it, don't hold your breath.
Hmmm.
"Orgone" and "Chi" don't really impress me much....its about as much
word salad at this point.
I've been told that the energy used in the energy healing regims,
accupuncture, reike and homeopathy is Chi. Homeopathy works for me,
accupuncture works for many people.
Like ZPE and scalar, etc., someone took something that might have some
basis in fact,
There are reports of nonorthogonal energy. There were three patents
issued to a man named Gelinas for curl free magnetic vector waves. Hal
Puthoff has one. Then there is the Ahronhoff Bohm paper, Phys. Rev.
1959. I assume that this is scalar energy.
Following the posting of the URL for the ZPE motor, I hit Wikepedia
searching for solitons, the results surprised me. A group of researchers
had transfered massive amounts of information, per second, by solitons.
Otto Schmitt believed that it would be possible to generate the
electrodynamic equivelant of the tsunimi, I'm wondering if solitons
going down an optical fiber qualifies?
But there is so much "unformation" out there that the situation is in
a real mess.
True
Orgone and Chi seem even more out there. Can I build a device to
detect/collect Orgone/Chi in a completely "hands down, no doubt,
When the subject of orgone first came up on this forum, I mentioned
Reich's experiments with beach sand in an orgone accumulator. The sand
had been heated to incandescense. When it was placed on steril growth
medium it generated tiny objects that appeared to be living. Reich named
them bions. He got a tan in the winter, with his lab coat on. The higher
the frequency, the more energy per photon. If I had the wherewithall to
experiment in this area I would. As for measuring it, did you notice the
Orgone meter?
success/failure can depend strongly on the user. Quote, "Human
presence can affect the operation of the cell in a positive or
negative way."
This is a tuned circuit, and the experimenter is a part of it.
I have something of a problem with that, in that this can all too
easily be "his negative feelings made it not work." In my experience
as an experimenter, and to be guarded against for sure!)
I agree, it does seem hoky.
Also a note that the engine will run with all spark plugs removed as
long as the coil and distributor are still functional. Doesn't this
strike anyone as a little...abnormal? Or should that be...unrealistic?
That depends, if you plugged the spark plug holes, and then allowed an
energy to be admitted with the air flow, that energy could cause the air
to expand, causing the engine to turn over.
Hmm. If the water in the cell isn't consumed, what is running the
engine? What is the exhaust product? Plain air?
Chi.
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