Fred

I have had a look at that paper and it is both interesting but requires more study, and even then does not consider another source of potential energy - which is the "excitonic" stimulation of a bubble prior to its eventual vaporization duing combustion. The stability and long lifetime of these bubbles must be related to exictonic charge retention somehow.

FS: After struggling through the math of this for a few hours, all I see is the formation of Nanobubbles on the ~ 250 Moles of ions formed from the 80 KiloJoules/Mole Free-Energy of Constant Auto-Ionization of water into OH - and H3O+ or H+. This freebie adds up to a constant replenishment of 20 MegaJoules or 20,000 BTU worth of Nanobubbles in the garden variety Joe Cell.


Not sure that I am following this, but hopefully you are implying that the bubbles are involved somehow in the storing or stabilization of that charge? That could explain many things.

What about the hydronium ion being the "nucleating agent" for a nanobubble?

What would be the geometry of this? That ion must be rather large, and it could be that the nanobubble itself is a sheath for this or some other nucleating agent.

It would be nice to tailor that structure into Chaplin's 280 water molecule icosahedron - but that would not seem to provide the energy density levels which are apparently seen.

Jones

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