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From: John Berry
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: New Segway Products
I am sort of against the war at this point
Bright chap eh? ;)
I prefer the dark myself.
Your 'sort of' against the war at this point? I bet Bush is 'sort of'
against the war at this point.
Bush had a chance to be a president worth remembering. Bush blew his
opportunity. I don't support him, nor am I a Republican. His only concern at
this point is trying to find a nice way out of the hole he has dug himself
into. To add on his endorsement of ethanol as the future alternative
fuel....that is just insanity.
You should be generally against war (state sponsored murder) anyway but
against this war where the US attacked a nation not threatening the US or
anyone else >that had demonstrably no significant weapons.
There is such a thing as justifiable homicide. What about
non-state-sponsored murder via high speed airliner? Iraq was a threat to
plenty, particularly itself. No one remembers Saddam Hussein gassing his own
people? In any case, I will agree that Iraq should have been left along for
the time being. Eventually, we would have had to do something about them. It
would seem in retrospect that a more massive campaign in Afghanistan would
have been called for, and then, when the nutcase in Iran decided to start
his nonsense about manufacturing nuclear weapons (those friendly Muslims
really aren't threatening us are they?) and furthermore boasting that he
will distribute them to his Muslim brothers, we would have been in a
position to launch the right kind of war against them. That is, with far,
far greater firepower than we used in Iraq. Who knows? Perhaps this show of
force would have frightened the Iraqi leadership so much that we could have
left them alone indefinitely.
In any case whats done is done. We must now proceed from here.
It has left the Iraqi people (the ones left) clearly worse off than they
were before the war, killed a @#%$ load of them by any estimate, killed
what must be >nearing as many dead US soldiers as people died in 911 (not
that the 2 are linked in any way)
As I stated previously, war is hell.
The US has been further disgraced by their solders being creepy, torturing
prisoners...
And the Muslim radicals do not torture and brutally execute westerners?
(there have been plenty of non Americans fall victim)
I do not shed one tear for anyone who has been involved in the kinds of evil
that the radical Islamic groups have been involved in. I do not know if I
would advocate torturing them, although I would NOT imprison my own soldiers
for doing so. I guess in that way, your statement that we have betrayed our
own soldiers is correct...we imprison them for "mistreating" the enemy, who
would not blink an eye at doing far worse to an "infidel". Instead of
torture, straight-up execution would suffice, I think.
Oh and it seems it will cost 1-2 trillion dollars.
A pity. This could have been used to both:
1. Solve our addiction to foreign oil
2. Fund a much less expensive but far more aggressive war against Islamic
radicals.
Following point 1 above, if that were solved first, we could attack
massively at will, and not worry about how oil shortages would affect us.
This could, however, harm the rest of the industrialized world. Therefore,
we should first make sure that all the technological nations have access to
whatever new power/fuel source we develop. This includes China and Russia,
whose people desperately need reliable, cheap energy. I believe it would
also alleviate many tensions between the U.S. and China, as a major point of
competition would be set aside by moving off oil.
What was the point of the war again?
To kill the enemy, whoever he may be.
Yeah I'm 'sort of' against the war in iraq too.
In that general tone then, I guess I am 'sort of' out of time...I think I
would have done better during the era of the last truly properly fought war;
WWII.
--Kyle
