Kyle - read John Berry's post. Be ashamed of being American. If you're not,
then it is people like you who are the problem that needs solving.
Kyle wrote:-
<<Would you prefer the nice red-black-white swastika as your flag
instead of your current one?>>
America only really came in when it seemed as if there might be a threat to
them (the Japanese), not earlier when they were asked by those threatened by
Germany. Elements in your Government are on record as claiming that a
European war had nothing to do with them, so why should they help. Thanks,
Yanks - not. Incidentally, one of my first memories of the States when
visiting America was going to a motel where the owner had a "shrine" to
Hitler and the red,black and white flag visible in the living room behind
the reception desk. Seeing my raised eyebrows she said that he (Hitler) had
been misrepresented and that the holocaust was a lie told by those dirty
Jews to blacken his name (this was in liberal California!) BTW, I didn't
find the room suitable and went elsewhere...
Kyle Wrote:-
<<Incidentally, the prominent Democrats in our (so-called) government wanted
it just as badly as anyone else did. If you don't realize this, you either
didn't watch the news clips of them demanding that we attack Iraq, or are
far lower on the scale of education than the so-called "under-educated" you
speak of above>>
Both Republican and Democrats (and Tony Blair) were misled by so called
intelligence that claimed that Saddam had developed "weapons of mass
destruction" that could be armed and ready to go in 45 minutes. As Saddam
had fired Scud missiles at Israel (to encourage support from the Arab
nations during the first Gulf "war") this was seen as giving an imperative
to stop his regime. WMD fired at Israel would have probably caused the
Israelis to use their nukes and ignite the whole middle East. The
"intelligence" was wrong (maybe deliberately so. Any person educated in the
history of the US would put almost nothing past your "intelligence"
services - whether they are incompetent, stupid or just plain evil remains
to be proved). Absolutely no-one is claiming that Saddam's regime was in any
way good, but there are many similar or worse regimes in the world that not
only has the USA done nothing to overturn but has also positively encouraged
(see John Berry's post again). The rhetoric about spreading democracy and
freedom by military intervention is close to being one of the all time most
evil "big lies" ever told.
I did not know that piece John Berry quotes about the US's prior messing
with Afghanistan that apparently precipitated the Soviet invasion. It sounds
very possible. When I was growing up, the biggest scare was the Cuban
missile crisis around 1961/62 when those rascally Commies were threatening
the forces of good by stationing nuclear weapons on Cuban soil. No-one at
all at the time (apart from the socialist "underground" media) reported that
that was a response to the US stationing nuclear weapons on (I think it
was ) Turkish soil pointing at Moscow. What was portrayed to the public as
evil Russian aggression and expansionism was merely tit for tat strategy to
a tactic thought up and executed by the paranoid good ole' boys of the USA.
