Fred,

Recombination of 2 OH to form HOOH is 2.2 eV per bond (213 kJ/mole) is lost energy ...

But it isn't "lost" if it supplies the energy (recycling the catalyst) needed to dissociate the O from the M-O, for instance. Or, from you original post about your experience with Manganese reactions (at Sandia) ...

2 MnO + O2 ----> 2 MnO2

H2O (on a metal surface) H-OH + M <----> H + OH:M

Overall: 2 H2O + O2 + M <----> 4 OH + M (where M is a metal or Metal Oxide)

However, after refining the supply calculation more, and talking to an redox expert - it does appear that there is a big probelm with this concept for certain implemenations - for instance, it will not be feasible for use in the small tool engine market, or even for motor cycles.

The situation for automobiles and home use is this:

For every gallon of biodiesel, LP, diesel or gasoline fuel burned, about six gallons of oxidant (50% HOOH) will be needed. 50% in the minimum that will self-ignite, and several companies are selling it for the hobbiest rocketry enthusiasts:
http://systemesolaire.safeshopper.com/2/cat2.htm?181

The oxidant has substantial energy content and will supply about half of the net energy used in the ICE, and the process will be very efficient, but also very bulky.

I can see a future situation where a household or neighborhood co-op can make their own electricity, heat and hot water cheaper than they can buy it from a utility - using a small shed for the engine and circulating the steam for heat before condensing it. But mobility of the total system is an issue even for automobiles.

There is no problem in actually manufacturing this much peroxide, "on the fly" using a minimum of parasitic energy from the engine, if your reactor and concentrator is large enough (5-10 gallon capacity perhaps), but the problem is *space* and the need for a large radiator to condense most of the water from steam in the exhaust, so that less water is used to make the peroxide in the ongoing system.

Even when gasoline hits $5 in the USA (after the next election) few automobile owners are going to want to carry the full 60 gallons of water to burn 10 gallons of gasoline. They won't need to - if steam from the exhaust is condensed.

I do not see storing peroxide, made elsewhere, as a viable option - it is too dangerous. If it cannot be made economically "on the fly" then this idea is a bust.

Jones

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