Bill, Terry et al, You absolutely right.
As regards money, secrecy and crap we'll because humans haven't evolved enough to corporate, to seek justice and reward all fairly laws of contract and property have to get in the way to have the game played fairly. If all the money the state takes that goes into the university system and government labs isn't spent fairly seeking new ideas and treating those who dedicate their lives to it fairly then they must rely on the free-market system. I noticed one research group (well several doing bogus research) at uni. researching female ejaculation as it was announced on the email public address system. What a waste of money. The best thing is for visionaries/ideas people to form a consortium of engineers/scientists (much as Steorn) and cut every worker in, pay every worker a salary and give every worker equity. Kind of socialism within capitalist constraints: you look after the founders and the workforce. -----Original Message----- From: William Beaty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2006 23:41 To: [email protected] Subject: [Vo]: steornwatch.com Here's a news site/forum that was mentioned on Straight Dope: http://www.steornwatch.com Of course if Steorn is really a publicity stunt for a TV show, then the above site could also be part of it. And... I still wonder what the story was with SMOT. Why go to all that trouble? Why not just divulge ALL evidence. Send out the damn videotapes right at the start? Hide nothing? Parksie might have got it right: it starts out as a mistake, then because the inventors aren't familiar with need for ruthless honesty, they naturally tell lies in order to avoid looking bad in public. Then they need bigger lies to cover up the small ones, and it blows up, rapidly going "from foolishness to fraud." The practices of science were evolved to solve this problem. It's simple: progress in understanding and discovery is far more important than making money. So don't hide things, don't lie, and if you make a mistake, announce it immediately so others aren't misled. But the inventors' community can't fix the problem since their philosophy is the opposite. Inventors have to hide things, and deluding the customer is a valuable technique, and looking good is far more important than telling the truth. (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 425-222-5066 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci

