Various levels of intellectual property:

Copyright: Oiginal works of 'art'. 70 years.

Trade Mark: A 'brand' lifetime forever. Brands are better in the long run. 

Design Mark: Aesthetic quality of a product or logo

Patent: Something capable of industrial use. One protects the *features* of
the device. One cannot patent ideas. Lifetime: 20 years.

Try www.patent.gov.uk

Sorry if I get busy and don't contribute for weeks or months. This is not a
snub. Lot going on in and out of work will tell in a few months. Viva
freedom of speech!

R.

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 31 August 2006 03:35
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]: you can't patent an idea (steorm)

William Beaty wrote:

> 
> The patent system is supposed to get inventors to give up their secrets.
> If you come up with a new product, we can protect it in exchange for
> publishing the information.
> 
> Unfortunately this is not designed to handle new scientific discoveries.
> So when a business discovers a fundamental scientific advance (x-rays, for
> example,)  things can get VERY screwy because the business can't patent
> x-rays.  They can only patent all sorts of devices based on the discovery.
> 
> Any sensible business would want to somehow keep x-rays a secret, since
> the discovery can't be protected by patents.  Then they may or may not
> want to get patents on all the various x-ray devices they could sell.

A business should not have to keep the reality of x-rays a secret since
x-rays occur naturally and therefore can't be patented by anyone.
Only an invented system for generating them can be patented.

Likewise, I suspect if OU is real and exists naturally then it can't
be patented. 

Harry
 
> 
> 
> If a scientist discovers x-rays, he just announces it to the world.  Maybe
> he benefits from the resulting fame, as with the discoverers of the laser.
> Or maybe he takes out patents and starts a company.
> 
> 
> Steorm are not behaving as scientists.
> 
> 
> 
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