Also Stepan Marinov was possibly suicided.
On 9/3/06,
William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> William Beaty wrote:
> >Suppose you stumbled across the same thing that Steorm
> >did. Apparently those guys aren't aquainted with the history of FE
> >fiascos. (For example, what will they do when the burglaries start,
> >or the anonymous death threats are phoned in against their families?)
>
> These things happened to Stan Pons and a few others, but I think such
> harassment is exceedingly rare, and nothing to worry about.
Violence and threats only seem to happen to inventors who make claims of
simple, extremely high-output devices, yet keep everything secret. I
don't know if Steorm qualifies, but CF and Hydrodynamics don't. Steorn
mentions that their device is non-electrical, and that they measure their
output by having it lift a weight.
There are horror stories about:
- Moray device (prototypes smashed, wounded in gun battle with burglars)
- Hendershot device (death threats, eventually paid to stop work)
http://www.borderlands.com/freeenergy.htm
- Clem device (beaten up, death threats against family)
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/clem3.htm
- Sweet device (death threats)
http://amasci.com/freenrg/sweetvta.html
- Bedini (beaten up)
- Roschin/Godin wheel (prototype smashed)
http://www.rexresearch.com/roschin/roschin.htm
- Hutchison (lab destroyed, recent harassment)
- Kawai motor (Yakuza takeover)
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/012202a.htm
- Paul Brown (longterm harassment, bomb found in car)
http://www.padrak.com/ine/INE17.html
So is this exceedingly rare? Compared to what?
Or do you assume that these were mostly hoaxers who were lying about being
threatened? For example, Dennis Lee constantly complains about being
suppressed. Greg Watson says he dropped the RMOG work after his family
was threatened. Searle says he was jailed for power theft because he used
his device to power his home. But these appear to be hoaxes or scams.
Me, I'm not convinced that any organized conspiracy exists. But I think
the death threats do, and the violence does. I think it's wise to take
the violence seriously, while at the same time being very open-minded
about whether any vast suppression conspiracy being real, versus being
paranoid-delusional. It doesn't take a vast conspiracy to make a
threatening phone call late at night.
> I have never once been threatened or harassed by anyone other than a few
> cold fusion researchers.
But you aren't dealing with claims about building a device which ends the
need for batteries, and conceivably could be scaled up to run a car
without fuel, heat a home, etc.
> The Steorm plans seem excessively complicated and time-consuming to
> me. Assuming they have something real and it can be demonstrated on a
> small scale who, I cannot imagine why they are going to all this
> trouble. If they could make a dozen prototypes and give four or five
> to me, or to Bill Beaty for that matter, we could probably convince
> the whole world in a few months.
But then (gasp) just ANYBODY could build one! This seems to be the worst
nightmare for many inventors. How horrible if the inventor became, say,
the creator of the AC power grid, but most people had never heard their
name.
There seems to be a "Free Energy Curse" which destroys people. But it's
no conspiracy, instead it's caused by inventors' own ego, greed, and need
for control. They don't want to plant a seed that creates a forest,
instead they want to build a forest all by themselves by hand, so they can
take all the credit for its existence.
The Prometheus Game
http://amasci.com/freenrg/prometh.html
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