In reply to R Stiffler's message of Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:13:45
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>Robin! I'm at a loss?
>
>So you are saying that 'Carbon' has 0 {zero} background radiation? Like it
>is at 0 K'
No, what I was trying to say was that I didn't think you could
measure an electrical signal coming from a carbon resistor (as
opposed to a thermal signal). If you can, and there is an
electrical signal, then you should be able to rectify it if you
first pass it through a transformer to adequately increase the
voltage.
>
>Why can not an object which radiates energy (we know all thing do) can not
>be fed into an antenna, properly tuned and transmit energy?
No antenna needed. The thing itself is already transmitting (and
receiving) energy at IR frequencies.
I just didn't think this manifested as an electrical current in
the resistor (and I still don't).
>
>Maybe your time is before the old carbon element phones where we turned a
>crank to ring the phone of whom we were calling and often found that the
>noise from the 'mouth piece' element was extreme an higher that our voice
>signal?
Since these used an external current (supplied by the hand cranked
generator), I don't think this example really makes your point
very well. Furthermore, I suspect that the noise you refer to was
primarily generated by graphite particles making and breaking
contact with one another under influence from the voice itself.
IOW no voice -> no noise. However I think I have used such a
device maybe once in my lifetime, so my memory isn't all that good
on that score.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:48 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Vo]: 2nd law of thermodynamics is incorrect
>
>
>In reply to Paul's message of Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:27:11 -0800
>(PST):
>Hi,
>[snip]
>>Lets simply. Neither experiment A or B have a power
>>source except thermal noise. Experiment B radiates
>>more power. It is a very simple circuit. Over time,
>>more energy is leaving experiment B than experiment A.
>>Therefore experiment B will be colder than experiment
>>A.
>Please forgive my ignorance, but I thought that thermal noise
>occurred as a consequence of a current passing through a resistor.
>A current driven by an external voltage. I didn't think that
>resistors actually generated anything by themselves. Hence, I
>wouldn't expect either experiment to radiate anything at all
>(through the antenna).
>(The only radiation I would expect would be normal thermal
>radiation, from the body of the resistor, as a consequence of
>their being at a specific temperature.)
>
>Regards,
>
>Robin van Spaandonk
>
>http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
>
>Competition provides the motivation,
>Cooperation provides the means.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
