Hi Frank,

OK, I see where we differ. I'm using this value for radius of electron.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/ElectronRadius.html

For the proton, using that capacity of sphere formula, I get...

~.9 x 10^-25 Farads

using the proton radius here.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Proton.html

I guess talking about the "radius" of either of these two
particles is a bit misleading, a sort of "lumped" analysis
where a distributed one is in order.

It is remarkable to me that the voltages there particles are
at range from 1/2 to 2 million volts.

Freds discussion about a (sort of) distributed model had
too many hands for me to comment on *grin*.

K.

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Keith Nagel writes

C = 3.135*10^-25 F

and we seem to differ by a factor of two.
BTW, this is pretty well known, are
you claiming the idea??? I've not got
a reference at hand, but I'm sure a little
searching would turn up something...

K.

................................
Thank you for you comment Keith.  No, I am not claiming to have discovered the 
value of capacitance of a proton.  r=1.4 x 10-15m.
It is well known.  It is sort of one of those uninteresting facts that no one 
cares about, except perhaps me.

The field of physics is divided into two camps;  Quantum and classical.  The 
quantum regime is considered to be preeminent.  The
classical world falls out as large numbers of quantum events occur.

I disagree with this.  I believe that the quantum regime is a subset of the 
classical universe.  I believe that there is a minimum
of stray capacitance that can be experienced by a particle.  This minimum of 
stray capacitance is a classical phenomena.  It is a
property of the universe.  The quantum regime falls out a consequence of this 
classical property.

  I started with 1.568 x 10 -25 Farads and developed the quantum regime from 
this first principle.  I got the same answers, however,
I employed an underlying classical premise.  I did not come directly to 
Planck's constant from this approach.  I came to 1.09
megahertz-meters as a fundamental quantum constant.  With a little math 1.09 
meters/sec can be converted to Planck's constant.

I hope you understand Keith

http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/index.html


Frank Z

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