It's OK Robin, it happens to me all the time :)
Your other point is valid though, we don't know how long it takes the Sun to 
charge this capacitor. But it's unlikely it charges it in one two millionth of 
a day = 43 ms, which would be required for it to provide the world's daily 
energy consumption :/

Michel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin van Spaandonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Going Van de Graaff


> In reply to  Robin van Spaandonk's message of Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:45:46 +1100:
> 
> Oops! My mistake. I didn't read carefully enough, and thought you were
> calculating C*V^2/2 rather than q*V/2. Then I falsely assumed that my own 
> number
> was farads rather than C! Just goes to show, I should never try using my brain
> in the afternoon. It just doesn't work right. :(
> 
> [snip]
>>In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:21:21 +0100:
>>Hi Michel,
>>[snip]
>>>This made me wonder how much electrical energy would be thus stored in this 
>>>Earth-atmosphere capacitor:
>>>
>>>C*V^2/2=q*V/2 = (28 440 * 300 000) / 2 = 4 266 000 000 = 4.3*10^9 J
>>
>>You forgot to square the voltage. ;)
>>
>>The correct answer is 1.28E15 J. Still only a tiny fraction of what we use on 
>>a
>>daily basis, but then how do we know it takes the Sun a whole day to charge 
>>this
>>capacitor?
>>
>>>
>>>This is two orders of magnitude less than the 4.3*10^11 J order of magnitude 
>>>estimate at page 20 of this physics lecture material (a good reference for 
>>>capacitor calculations BTW):
>>>http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/632.ral5q.summer06/Lecture1-16_Powerpoints/lecture_5_mat/PHYS632_C5_25_Capac.ppt
>>>
>>>This energy, according to the same source, is renewed daily by the sun (king 
>>>sized photovoltaic module ;). But even their much higher estimate is still 2 
>>>million times less than the world's daily energy consumption (about 10^18J), 
>>>very disappointing!
>>>
>>>Michel
>>Regards,
>>
>>Robin van Spaandonk
>>
>>http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
>>
>>Competition provides the motivation,
>>Cooperation provides the means.
> Regards,
> 
> Robin van Spaandonk
> 
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
> 
> Competition provides the motivation,
> Cooperation provides the means.
>

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