What I find most fascinating about the Hall of Mirrors Universe idea is not its mathematical or physical validity. I don't find myself qualified to comment on this. What's most interesting to me is that all the references to this concept, of which there are many on the internet, call a soccer ball (football) 12-sided. The classic football has 32 sides, 12 pentagons and 20 hexagons.
While this is not particularly important as far as the cosmology is concerned, the fact that this error would be repeated over and over again by serious scientists and mathematicians makes one wonder how often serious errors are repeated until they become accepted fact. M. --------Original Message-------- Jones Beene wrote: >From the "believe it or not" department... and adding new meaning to the "World Cup" of soccer (as we Yanks like to call that hands-free, 12-sided-ball game). There is nothing scientific nor which has been proved to date, in all of cosmology and physics, to show that the Universe is extremely (or infinitely) large, nor even that it is a set old-age (13-15 billion years) nor even that it is expanding at all ! Nothing, zero, nada, nil! All we have for proof, as 2006 ends, is based on logical (human logic) inference (if not sound-and-fury from self-appointed experts) All of the above physical properties of the universe, including so-called "red-shift" are conjectures based on the premise (very understandable human logic) that what we see when we look into the vast reaches of space with a telescope (or from Hubble images) is the single *object itself. Don't "duh" that part. It does seem logical at first to us humanoids, to assume this as a 'given', but in fact, it probably is NOT true... and most of what we see in telescopes is probably not the single object itself For instance, when we see a galaxy far removed and supposedly very old... instead of that being all there is to the story, what we see in that one instance may be but a *reflection* (one of many) of far fewer objects, each of which reflection is repeated many times throughout space, all showing differing red-shits and perspective of the same object, and varying according to the relative placement of the "virtual" mirror - which is gravitational curvature (and a 12-sided curvature. Specifically, the very same object can be repeatedly seen, out in space, twelve times or much more but it is still a single entity. <snip> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

