The Cu plate replates itself from Cu++ in the solution, the Zn plate dissolves 
(releases Zn++ to the solution) so it can be viewed as the fuel. Works with 
other metal pairs.

Michel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: T. H.Moray's Energy Device


> According to the article the material can replate itself? 
> 
> Michel Jullian wrote,
>>
>> Fred wrote:
>> > Bain buried plates of zinc and copper in the ground about one meter
> apart and
>> > used the resulting voltage, of about one volt, to operate a clock.
>>
>> This looks like a galvanic cell to me, with the earth acting as a porous
> electrolyte reservoir. A ZnCu cell has a 1.1V voltage:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_cell
>>
>> In which case the energy comes from the corroding electrode (zinc plate)
> I am afraid. It would have to work with identical metals to make sure the
> energy is not of chemical origin.
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "vortex-l" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: T. H.Moray's Energy Device
>>
>>
>> > Free Energy in Dr. Moray's backyard?
>> >>
>> >> IOW, this an open-ended transmission line (Line-To-Ground LC)
>> >> that might by happenstance hit a resonance point that could set up
>> >> some husky HF (Megahz?) oscillations off the ~26,000 coulomb
>> >> excess electron charge of the earth, that could  do something strange
>> >> enough to vindicate Dr. Moray's 1909 - 1930s anachronistic 
>> >> sojourn into solid state physics.
>> >> 
>> >> IOW II, you have a gigaohm/meter internal resistance battery D.C.-wise
>> >> but, if RF oscillation sets in, it's a whole different ball game, and
> if.... 
>> >> 
>> > 
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current 
>> > 
>> > "Telluric currents are phenomena observed in the Earth's crust and
> mantle. In September of 1862, an experiment to specifically address Earth
> currents was carried out in the Munich Alps (Lamont, 1862). The currents
> are induced by changes in the outer part of the Earth's magnetic field,
> which are usually caused by interactions between the solar wind and the
> ionosphere. Utilization of these electromagnetic effects has been reported
> in the United States as far back as 1859. United States telegraph lines
> were operated by such natural induced currents (during geomagnetic
> disturbances). Tellurics also result from thunderstorms. Telluric currents
> flow in the surface layers of the earth. The electric potential on the
> Earth's surface can be measured at different points, enabling us to
> calculate the magnitudes and directions of the telluric currents and thence
> the Earth's conductance. Telluric currents will move between each half of
> the terrestrial globe at all times. Telluric curren!
>>  ts!
>> >  move equator-ward (daytime) and pole-ward (nighttime)."
>> > 
>> > "The field varies in time and over the frequency range 0.001 to 5 Hz
> (Krasnogorskaja & Remizov, 1975). Electric potential gradients caused by
> telluric currents are of the order of 0.2 to 1000 volts per metre.
> (Krasnogorskaja and Remizov (1975); Vanjan (1975)). At any location, the
> current density is a direct function of the interhemispheric currents and
> their potential gradients. It has been estimated that telluric currents
> overall during twelve hours in one hemisphere are in range of 100 to 1000
> amperes. This intensity of telluric currents is sufficient to drive the air
> movements that create atmospheric electricity, from the global fair weather
> charge accumulator to thunderstorm bases."
>> > 
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_battery
>> > 
>> > "One of the earliest examples of an earth battery was built by
> Alexander Bain in 1841 in order to drive a prime mover. Bain buried plates
> of zinc and copper in the ground about one meter apart and used the
> resulting voltage, of about one volt, to operate a clock. Carl Friedrich
> Gauss, who had researched the Earth's magnetic field, and Karl A. von
> Steinheil, who built one of the first electric clocks and developed the
> idea of an "Earth return" or "ground return", had previously investigated
> such devices. Lord Kelvin developed a "sea battery" in the latter end of
> the 1800s."
>> > "Daniel Drawbaugh received U.S. Patent 211322  for an Earth battery for
> electric clocks (with several improvements in the art of Earth batteries).
> Another early patent was obtained by Emil Jahr U.S. Patent 690151  Method
> of utilizing electrical Earth currents). In 1875, James C. Bryan received
> U.S. Patent 160152  for his Earth Battery. In 1885, George Dieckmann,
> received US patent U.S. Patent 329724  for his Electric Earth battery. In
> 1898, Nathan Stubblefield received U.S. Patent 600457  for his electrolytic
> coil battery, which was a combination of an earth battery and a solenoid.
> The Earth battery, in general, generated power for early telegraph
> transmissions and formed part of a tuned circuit that amplified the
> signalling voltage over long distances."
> 
> 
>

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