Paul wrote:

Mike Carrell wrote:
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> The would, if they could. But I don't think that the second law is any 
danger from any dingus. Living systems OTOH, can


Mike said

> Living systems do not reverse the second law, which
strictly understood refers to ***closed systems***. Living systems are not 
closed

Paul said

The reason there are so many interpretations is because it's one of the most erroneous laws of physics.
That depends on how you intepretate it.

It's kind of hilarious how some physicists continually append more rules to the 
2nd law in attempts to duck tape and repair. Visually the 2nd law is not the 
size of the empire state building held together by duck tape. In this instance 
they find the need to falsely state living systems are not a
close system.

I agree

 Why? Because living systems break the 2nd law. :-)   Humans
can be isolated.
What do you mean by that remark?

 Fact is Humans have an appreciable free will, which
can violate the 2nd law.

Lets not waste any more time on the 2nd fictitious law
of  thermodynamics. :-)

Which one of you, by the force of your will, or any dingus can take two containers of warm water and make one steam and the other freeze? It's not a fictitious law. heat migrates from a higher thermal gradient to a lower one, dinguses (dingi?) deteriorate.



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