Jones Beene wrote:

I would like to know how much mass of propellant a rocket would require to launch from earth to orbit, and from earth to Mars.


Not all that much - if you do not carry the propellant into orbit ! - but instead adapt the power source to Bussard's nuclear ram-jet idea.... where you collect the propellant in the ionosphere.

Okay, that takes care of earth to orbit. How about orbit to Mars?

A similar approach would be a conventional jet engine lifter to bring the vehicle high into the atmosphere before rockets alone carry it to orbit. In other words, a gigantic version of the Rutan SpaceShipOne design.

Of course I would prefer a space elevator, but for oversized packages one might want a large earth-to-orbit vehicle.

I do not see much point to a large vehicle that can go from the ground on earth all the way to Mars. Maybe earth to moon would be practical (especially with 1 G constant acceleration), but the 20,000 DWT freighters I have in mind would transfer freight and passengers at an orbital station or on the moon.

Getting back to earth is another problem. One of the biggest problems with the Space Shuttle is the excessive wear and tear on reentry. That is to say, using atmospheric friction to slow down. It would be better to slow down in space with retro rockets and then land more like a VTOL, more or less straight down, with rocket engines to break the fall, as it were. The big space-bourne 20,000 DWT earth-to-Mars vehicles would never re-enter. They would be disposed of on the Moon or Mars. I suppose they would never take off in the first place; they would be assembled in orbit or on the Moon.


But then again - why not use the dollar resources (if they were available) to perfect Bussard's boron/proton small ICF Fusor design . . .

I do not know how close that is to practicality. Some of the high temperature CF reactions such as glow discharge may become practical sooner. But in any case, I meant cold fusion in the broadest sense; i.e., fusion-colder-than-conventional- plasma-fusion, which would include Bussard's work.


. . . what would be the comparative advantages of LENR in this application over warm fusion (the ICF Fusor) ?

None. But suppose only CF is made practical, and the temperature is limited to, say, 1000 deg C. I suppose that would call for a two- or three-stage approach, starting with heat to electricity.

- Jed


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