Kyle R. Mcallister wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]: FRE > > >> Ugg, >> capitalism. When is humanity going to grow >> past the need for the "me me me" stage? In all >> fairness here is humanities evolution --> > > Capitalism isn't perfect, and I am not in support of uncontrolled > capitalism (which is not a free market, it is letting the big sharks eat > the little fish), but what do you expect to use as an alternative?
Well, as I said, "When is humanity going to grow past the ***need*** for the 'me me me' stage?" Key word is "need." I'm not suggesting capitalism is or was of no use. What happens when a child grows up completely deprived of television, junk food, pornography, etc. and then suddenly moves out to meet the real world of such temptations? The poor Middle Eastern parents across the street found out. Their daughter and sons are now sex crazed in a modern society. People learn from pain and bad experiences. The point is, perhaps capitalism offered some real growth for the modern world. So you ask, "what do you expect to use as an alternative?" There is no alternative for the *present.* An idealistic society will only work when nearly 100% of the people are of an extremely positive mentality. When you can place an open box containing $100,000 on your front lawn, come back next month and expect the money to still be their, then perhaps humanity is ready for adulthood. Until then, capitalism will be the best option. Hopefully in the next several decades idealist methods of sharing such as GPL will dominate and evolve to something wonderful. [snip] > Well where do I fit in? "Significantly lesser degree?" You cannot read > my mind, you do not know what I do or how deeply I care for those around > me, particularly those who are hurting. That's why it was titled, " Average definition of 'family'" Key word, *average*. > I worry about those people every day. Sweeping generalizations are > something like zero-tolerance policies: not especially useful. Ask such a person who has a grown up daughter if they would take them on board in their home if the daughter lost her job and had difficulty finding another job? I cannot imagine any parent saying "No!" Then ask such a parent if they would do the same for that homeless person begging on the street for food and work? Some people have evolved past stage 3 and dedicate their life to helping the world, but most have not. > I have almost no immediate family, or should I put it, almost none worth > talking to. In my case, the "other people" are generally cared for by me > more than most family members. If your point 3 *is* generally correct, > then I am more alone than I thought before. Which is pretty bad. Again, this is not about Kyle R. Mcallister. It is about the average person. >> 4. Homo sapiens, near future. Family constitutes the >> entire world of people, and to a >> lesser degree the animal and plant kingdom. > > What do we eat? Plenty, when science evolves to the degree it is a blessing. For now there are other options. There are a lot of people who eat nuts, seeds, fruit, etc. Does it kill a plant to pick the fruit? This is all moot since our science has not reached the degree of healthy synthesized foods. >> 5. Homo sapiens, far future. Family constitutes all >> beings. :-))) > > I wish Pellegrino and Zebrowski were here to argue that one with you ;) > I somehow doubt the "big galactic family" exists, or will, without > someone dominating and setting policy. Or look at it another way: even > in a happy family, someone is in charge. Do you really think there was a beginning? If so, then what created that beginning? Sciences will continue to evolve and change. For now they are pondering if time began with the big bang, but at the same time they theorize with M-theory there are countless big bangs. IMHO it seems a given that existence has always existed. For anyone who missed it, that would infinity, a concept no human can comprehend. Infinity, as in without *any* beginning. Don't you think some orderliness would have formed in infinite time, LOL? Again, infinity as in no beginning. Regards, Paul ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
