John Berry wrote:
 > Well as I spent time with Bruce (and Andrew Mount
and Paul Clarke) in New
 > Zealand not long before he died and I can tell you
that he was as Paul
 > asserts a kind man, no negativity.
 >
 > The last N-Machine test in NZ before his death was
not so positive.
 > I believe that the N-Machine will work as a motor
(not FE) although I
 > believe that the first machine possibly didn't have
a motor force, it was
 > very different with carbon brushes at 90 degrees.
 >
 > The N-Machine's magnetic field DOES rotate with the
magnets, the voltage is
 > generated in the external circuit and not on the
rotating frame.

I too theorized the field rotates in N-machine, but
have yet to find time to test such a 
theory.  Do you have any proof?



 > The funny think is that the N-Machine is very very
easy to test, don't test
 > it as a generator, test it as a motor.

Red flag #1. Why would you tell people to do that? 
All the tests I've studied clearly 
show the N-machine is over unity as a generator and
the opposite as a motor.



 > However this whole discussion is foolishness, you
can't get free energy
 > from magnetic interactions.

Red flag #2. I totally disagree!  I am not suggesting
the N-machine would get "free 
energy" from magnetic interactions, but may get such
energy from an unknown source. Trying 
studying Bruce's gyro experiments.

As far as magnetic interactions, if you spend a few
years researching avalanches and what 
is really happening to magnetic material on the atomic
scale you will learn that you can 
indeed extract "free energy" from ambient temperature.



 > You can't get free energy with electrical arcs.
 > You can't get free energy with electrostatics.

You place far too many limitations on yourself. :-)  
At room temperature electrons in all 
matter on average travel at a few hundreds of the
speed of light.  That's a lot of energy.



 > Bruce knew how you get free energy, he called it
"the primordial field, a
 > sea of energy".
 > Free Energy is not possible with any conventional
element known to modern
 > science, it is gained by making a device that
harnesses 'The work wheel of
 > nature' which isn't electrical, magnetic, sound
(Keely), or nuclear but can
 > influence how such devices work.
 >
 > If you make a device that works with both
electrical and or magnetic
 > principles and the work wheel of nature you get
results.
 > What we need to better understand is this work
wheel of nature.
 >
 > If you look at devices it isn't hard to find one
that does something
 > strange
 > besides create free energy, actually it's often
harder to find one that
 > doesn't have weird side effects.
 >
 > If you don't recognize the working principle behind
a device, it is no
 > wonder if you fail to get results.
 >
 > Look at Tesla's work, no one has replicated it to
this day!
 > Why? Because to truly replicate Tesla and get the
results he got, a HV
 > transformer connected to the mains will not cut it
as the main's don't
 > supply this 'work wheel' of nature (it being
depleted way way down the
 > line), but your average DC motor run backwards, or
dynamo rectified will.
 >
 > The problem is that a whole branch of physics has
been ignored by taking a
 > wrong turn thanks to Einstein (despite the fact
that he later said that
 > there IS an aether and thinking otherwise is
foolish)

I agree!  Their conception of such Aether may have
been vague and inaccurate, but it seems 
overwhelming that such a sea of energy exists.




 > , that's why conventional science seems right most
of the time and the math holds out,
 > all our technology is based on one specific set of
ideas and principles, we
 > have that part correct and indeed there is NO Free
Energy or Antigravity
 > there, not even detectable by super sensitive
instruments. (generally)

I'm not sure what are saying there.  The universe is
steaming with energy.  It's surrounds 
you at all times.  Such energy is free for those
intelligent enough to extract it.  Any 
voltage meter can measure thermal electrical noise
caused by resistance.  Get a 1 Meg 
resistor and use a scope to view the voltage.  It's
real.  Connect an extremely high 
resistance resistor across a high-speed LED and by
means of ultra high-speed photon 
sensors you can detect periodic photon wave train
packets.  The light emitted by such 
LED's comes from the thermal energy caused by
resistance.



 > If you wish to blindly drive ahead you are welcome,
but what I'm saying can
 > be solidly proven beyond any doubt.

Red flag #3. I can only go on facts. I welcome your
proof when you wish to post it.


Regards,
Paul Lowrance



 > On 1/21/07, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>
 >> Mark Goldes wrote:
 >> > Paul, VO,
 >> >
 >> > DePalma was a very sad case. He was fired by
MIT.
 >> He maintained his N
 >> > Machine could never work as a motor but only as
a
 >> generator. We hired
 >> > Ken Wasson, an excellent magnetics consultant,
to
 >> visit Bruce and he
 >> > pointed out that it could be developed into a
motor
 >> with a market large
 >> > enough to support his research. Bruce then
called
 >> me and screamed into
 >> > the phone so loudly that I could hold it three
feet
 >> away as he ranted
 >> > that this could not be true.
 >> >
 >> > His work was never Over Unity and the early
report
 >> suggresting otherwise
 >> > was later retracted by Dr. Kinchloe as
erroneous.
 >> >
 >> > An ME friend of mine went to work for DePalma in
an
 >> effort to help him
 >> > and worked for subsistance wages. This was after
 >> Bruce emigrated from
 >> > the U.S. My friend concluded he was a fraud and
was
 >> bilking investors.
 >> > He left in disgust.
 >> >
 >> > There seem to be endless efforts to find value
in
 >> his work ever since
 >> > his death. As far as I am aware, all have come
to
 >> naught.
 >> >
 >> > Mark
 >>
 >>
 >> On 2nd thought, I feel the need counter act the
 >> negativity that IMHO incorrectly portrays
 >> Bruce Depalma.  Many a times I spent the day with
 >> Bruce Depalma and Andrew Mount in Santa
 >> Barbara.  Not once did I ever see any such
negative
 >> behavior from either one, and that's
 >> saying something given the fact I am a very blunt
 >> person.  I have no idea what was
 >> happening to Bruce during the last years of his
life.
 >> Understandably he may have begun to
 >> lose patience, but the Bruce I knew was a
gentleman.
 >> A man who treated people with
 >> respect and kindness.  A man who loved people.  I
 >> remember Andrew Mount told me Bruce
 >> would call his Mother every day to help add a
little
 >> something special to her life.  He
 >> was a caring person!
 >>
 >>
 >> Regards,
 >> Paul Lowrance
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> >> From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >> >> Reply-To: [email protected]
 >> >> To: [email protected]
 >> >> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bruce Depalma & "Free
Energy"
 >> >> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:12:35 -0800 (PST)
 >> >>
 >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 >> >>  > In fact,  I can now describe all atomic
orbits
 >> >>  >
 >> >>  >
 >>
_http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterb.html_
 >> >>  >
 >>
(http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterb.html)
 >> >>  >
 >> >>  >
 >> >>  > enjoy
 >> >>  >
 >> >>  > Frank Znidarsic
 >> >>
 >> >>
 >> >> Maybe you're interested in the late Bruce
 >> Depalma's
 >> >> work -->
 >> >>
 >> >> Gyro Drop Experiment:
 >> >> http://depalma.pair.com/gyrodrop.html
 >> >>
 >> >> Understanding the Dropping of the Spinning Ball
 >> >> Experiment:
 >> >>
 >>
http://depalma.pair.com/SpinningBall(Understanding).html
 >> >>
 >> >> Home page:
 >> >> http://depalma.pair.com/
 >> >>
 >> >> I'm uncertain why Bruce Depalma's work is
ignored.
 >> I
 >> >> visited Bruce when he lived in Santa
 >> >> Barbara, CA.  From what I know it seems legit.
 >> The
 >> >> common "free energy" N-machine power
 >> >> measurements are simple-- DC in, DC out. I know
 >> Bruce
 >> >> had Electrical Engineer test his
 >> >> machines. One of the earlier published data
 >> clearly
 >> >> shows "free energy."  IMHO either this
 >> >> was one of the biggest scams or it's legit.
Some
 >> may
 >> >> thing the N-machine appears too
 >> >> simple to generate "free energy," but Bruce's
wide
 >> >> range of experiments dealing with
 >> >> gravity & inertia revealed spinning objects
change
 >> the
 >> >> surrounds.  The falling ball
 >> >> experiments are classical examples -->
 >> >> http://depalma.pair.com/gyrodrop.html
 >> >>
 >> >> Bruce's N-machines produce appreciably high
 >> angular
 >> >> forces-- over 9000 G's.  Perhaps
 >> >> that's a window for "free energy."
 >> >>
 >> >> http://www.rexresearch.com/trombly/trombly.htm
 >> >>
 >> >> http://www.rexresearch.com/tewari/tewari.htm
 >> >>
 >> >> http://www.rexresearch.com/depalma/depalma.htm
 >> >>
 >> >>
 >> >> Regards,
 >> >> Paul Lowrance



 
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