Hi Michel,

> But the air propelled downwards by the ion has a mass (hidden in the ion
> mobility parameter), that's what's matters, just like the mass of a
> helicopter's propeller is irrelevant. If one can speak of thrust for a
> helicopter, one can speak of thrust for a lifter.

Several people have constructed lifters (and the related "thruster") to
block airflow, which clearly demonstrates that airflow has nothing to do
with the lift.

Dave

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