No one is claiming there were suicide pilots on the planes?  How deep
does this fantasy go?  Remote control? Robots?
 
My point about government competence still stands and is confirmed
everyday with the continuing failure to pacify Iraq.  It's far more than
'Bush is a twit'.
 
And the intelligence community is somehow above and beyond this level of
ineptitude?  You mean like WMD's in Iraq?  or decades of mole-ridden
ineffectiveness
in the cold war?  Soviet missile estimates? "Success" in Vietnam?
Predictions that Cuba will collapse?  Completely in the dark about
Manhattan Project spies?
Surprize by Sputnik?  Surprize by Soviet nuclear success?  Surprize by
the fall of the Iron Curtain?  Plots to discreetly kill Hugo Chavez
instead of letting  him return
after a coup?  
 
Anything you wish to explain by competence - which is demanded in an
extreme degree by a multi faceted and highly complex conspiracy  - can
be more easily
explained by an inept government led by naive hacks -- and examined by
paranoids who see God-like ability in those they despise.
 
Can I also tell you how wildly ignorant Bill Clinton was?  How reports
surfaced that he made huge promises about healthcare and the budget
without the simplest
knowledge that the government was subject to bond traders and couldn't
afford his plans?  that he got upset with his aides when they told him
this after he became
president?
 
Can I go on about other Presidents?  How LBJ exposed his genitals to
journalists to make a point?  How frighteningly naive Carter was ( and
is!)  How the
press quietly agreed not to talk about Reagan's Alzheimers?
 
It's all a mess, not a conspiracy.
 
 

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From: John Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: No Thermite ?


That's my point exactly.

What I am saying has solid evidence to back it up, and you counter with
'Bush is a twit'.
Which while obviously true, no one is claiming he did any of the
technical stuff, members of the intelligence community did that. 
Further no one is claiming there were suicide pilots on the planes, of
any race, you just show how little you've looked into it to say
something like that.

It's only a theory if there isn't absolute proof. 


On 2/22/07, Zell, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

        Perhaps the answer lies in the Monty Python sketch in which a
building
        is maintained by hypnosis.
        
        The problem with conspiracies is the obvious contradiction with
real
        world government competence.  Take a good look 
        at Iraq or the intellectual depth of Bush and reason
accordingly. I
        don't see any reason why conspirators should haul
        Sacks of thermite and ignite them in synchrony with ( extremely
        reliable) suicide bombers - when explosives would do a 
        better job.  More than that, I doubt the WTC buildings were as
well
        built as the Empire State building - when it survived
        A collision with a WWII vintage bomber.
        
        


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