Michel Jullian wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Lifter electrode geometries
> 
>>> In Sigmond's derivation d is the z- (usually vertical) distance traveled by
>>> the single ion under study. Since the highest density of ions takes the
>>> shortest route, for most (but not all) lifter designs one can make the
>>> approximation of the same z-distance d (the gap length) for all ions, hence
>>> the I*d/mu thrust formula obtained by summing all the q*d/mu momentums
>>> contributed by all the ions crossing the gap in one second. In those lifters
>>> the exact shape of the collector doesn't matter, whether wing shaped or
>>> round
>>> tube or plane mesh.
>> 
>> If the thrust can be increased by increasing the gap distance, how large can
>> the gap be made?
> 
> As large as you wish, but if you increase the gap you must also e.g. increase
> the voltage and the wire-to-wire spacing, the parameters are interdependent so
> you must calculate them in the right order (cf the multiwire-plane design
> guide).

Ok.

>>> But there are exceptions, e.g. in my trough shaped mesh design as I
>>> explained
>>> the ions fan out, so they travel very different z-distances, so the
>>> X-to-plane
>>> I*d/mu formula doesn't apply. If you do the (simple) maths you find:
>>> 
>>> Thrust(line to half cylinder) = 2/pi * I*d/mu
>> 
>> It doesn't depend on the width of the trough?
> 
> It does, via the d parameter (the trough width is 2*d, it's a half cylinder
> with the wire on its axis)
> 

OK.

Harry

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