Michel Jullian wrote,

Sterling draws 1000W heat from hot reservoir (not necessarily water
BTW) and outputs 150W mechanical. Heat pump draws 150W*9=1350W from ambient air and outputs them to the hot tank. Net power into the hot tank: 350W

The figure of COP=9 may have occurred in print, or in a lab somewhere, and may be the ultimate goal to shoot at - but the people who do this for a living (use the Linde process to make LOX etc) ... like, well, Linde - they say that they can achieve a COP of about four in practice, but that is using a water heat sink (river) and that is a different kind of COP, from the "free energy" variety, in that the "sink" itself is not usable as heat.

If you try to segment the stages for use in a heat engine (the most efficient Linde process uses six stages, I believe) then the COP goes down further below four.

I think that a useful COP using the Linde for both heat and cool convesrion would be 2.5 and that is why I said earlier "if you can give me a Stirling with 40% Carnot efficiency using 100C water, then I can guarantee a self-runner."

Of course this shifts the burden of proof for OU to the Stirling engine, because since the Carnot spread is only 100 degrees above ambient, the maximum possible efficiency is nowhere close to 40%. That is why I called it "magic," but in truth you will find people who think that the Stirling can exceed these limitations.

I hope that they are correct, but the proof is lacking, so far.

Jones

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