David Thomson wrote:

> Hi Harry,
> 
> Thanks for posting the derivation.

You're welcome.

> This is one of those cases where E=mc^2 appears to be true, because the math
> predicts a value that is useful.  As I pointed out, however, E=mc^2 is not
> always true, such as in the case of nuclear binding and unbinding.
> 
> Nuclear fission, regardless of what isotope is involved, results in the
> unbinding of nuclei and hence should absorb energy and convert it to matter.
> This is not the case.

It is not the case because nuclei heavier than iron tend to be inherently
unstable. But I am no expert in nuclear physics.

> As for the ballistic example in Max Born's book, this is also derived in the
> Aether Physics Model, but in a different form.
> 
> Unlike the example in the book, where energy, mass, light waves, or
> radiation are physically defined, I present a theory where the photon is
> quantum and precisely defined, as is all matter.  In the Aether Physics
> Model, all physical existence traces back to three non-material things;
> Gforce, dark matter, and singularity.  From these three non-material things,
> I can mathematically construct the entire physical Universe.  The structural
> theory even correctly predicts the binding energies of all 1s orbital
> electrons, and will likely predict all the electron and nuclear binding
> energies when the theory is finished.  This is something that E=mc^2 cannot
> do.
>
> In the mass/energy paradigm, mass, energy, photons, and light are spoken of
> only in a general sense.  There are no definitions for how these units
> relate to physical objects, which is the subject of physics.

The units of classical mechanics relate very well to the
physical objects of the mechanical arts.


> In fact, we
> are explicitly told that mass is not the same thing as matter.  As such,
> there is no meaning to the equivalence of mass and energy.
> 
> Yes, it is true that there are isolated cases where one can use E=mc^2 to
> gain a useful result.  These cases will always involve photons, since
> photons are the only thing capable of traveling at the speed of light.  The
> equation cannot be used for dense matter, such as atomic nuclei.  Another
> case where E=mc^2 fails is the observation of energetic nuclei from stellar
> blasts, or cosmic rays.  Cosmic rays can be entire aluminum nuclei, stripped
> of all electrons, and still travel at or near the speed of light.  According
> to E=mc^2, as an object approaches the speed of light, its mass approached
> infinity.  No such thing happens with cosmic rays.
> 
> Another false prediction of SR is that it doesn't matter which object is
> moving what velocity, since it is believed there is no fixed reference
> frame.  Yet, when cosmic rays come streaming through the Earth, the Earth's
> mass does not approach infinity, either.  In fact, there is no reference
> frame that exhibits infinite mass increase.
>
> Dave

I am not here to defend Einstein's relativism. In fact I even question
Newton's and Galileo's relativism.

Harry
 

> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Vo]: E=mc^2 without SR.
> 
> 
> I scanned and uploaded a derivation of E = mc^2 which does not use
> the mathematical formalism of Special Relativity.
> 
> Four pages from Max Born's book _Einstein's Theory of Relativity_
> (about 1M):
> 
> http://web.ncf.ca/eo200/derivation.html
> 
> Harry
> 

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