Dear Vortex,
I have not been following vortex for some time and now receive the
vortex digest.
The beginning of one is 'cut and pasted' below.
I read well and rapidly, but type very slowly.
AND.... at present my keyboard is a little "crunchy" and sometimes
does not put
the spaces between words. Please forgive keyboard, my errors in spelling
and grammer, dyslexia and so on .... I am simply trying to get the idea[s]
from Vo and convey ideas, some my own, some from others ...and
convey these-them to Vo.
PLEASE:
I ask a favor from one of you Vos... if you lurk or want to be low
key, please contact off list.
I am and have been interested in Energy for decades. I am primarily
a hands on applied sciences and experimentalist.
There are only a few names in this Volume 2007# 162 ....I think 10
are listed.
It would be great to know who is writing what comment in some of
these letters.... yet, for myself, far more importantly, there are some
mentions of experiments and-or effects....some of these I know of... some
not.
SO: I ask, will someone take this Volume 2007 # 162 and cut it down but
let me or maybe all of vo:
[1] Who ------> is saying what ..in one or more of these long 'she
said he said he said she said' strings please......
so I can figure out who is saying what to who about what.
I do not really care so much about who thinks who is right or wrong.... I am
trying to make sense of which-what the contributors are talking about....
[2] WHAT..... some of the letters mention effects,theories ideas and so
on ...
some I have known about... but some not.... papers are mentioned .... but is
cases
I can not seem to locate (within these letters) What these papers are, where
to find them and so on.... PLEASE... an annotation of the
ideas-effects-papers-and-so-on.
A REWARD for the effort, in advance, even if no one helps with my
questions:
[3] I offer a note here about Cold Fusion:
In advance Isit corrected if someone can show a paper or other
that
addresses the note below....
(A) In almost every paper I have read and conferences and
dedicated presentations I have attended that are directed toward the ideas
of CF....
There is one big "hole" which will-would-can change the figures of all
of the energy
figures:
(B) CF is an electrochemical experiment. Aqueous....hence H2 and
O2 are
liberated, generated, result of electrolysis of water or how some ever
(C) But no one seems to give a measure of the volume of these
gases....and what
energy would be resulting if the set up collected the gases as
separate gas
flow or stream outputs AND
i) burned them and measured the heat
ii) combined them with a catalyst set up INTENDED to make
and measured the same
iii) combined the gases in a fuel cell and measured the
electrical output
-------------> And then offer figures of the energy of the use-chemical-fuel
cell of these
gases which are the result of nearly Any CF cell I have come across.
Yes.... I have read and talked to presenters and sometime the
gases are vented, recombined often with some proprietary or not defined
catalyst .... but when I ask...
"How much gas and what energy it would contribute ...if combusted or fuel
cell or
thermal by other means ...I get no answer...or "not part of the calculation"
or
?I do not know? or"itdoesnomatter"
Note Bene: If the gases are produced...the energy they represent
Does
make a difference in the total intermediate andor end result.
Any comment or help on these gasses?
Thanks to all,
JHS
would
vortex-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 162
Today's Topics:
Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Mi [ Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions [ Paul Lowrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Mi [ Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Vo]: MIB persuasions [ "David Thomson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
]
[Vo]: Earthquake in NE Ohio [ Harvey Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions [ "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
]
Re: [VO]:Re: Modified Double-Slit Ex [ Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions [ Paul Lowrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Vo]: MIB persuasions [ "David Thomson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
]
Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions now vladim [ "Esa Ruoho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:25:20 -0500
From: Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
