Hi Esa,
> hi so what do you lot think of vladimir b ginzburg? > seems to be slightly touched in the head about vortices! Interesting comment to be made on a list called "vortex-l." I have corresponded with him and have one of his books. Unlike my work, which is completely dimension based and derives straight from the empirical constants, Ginzburg tries to work within the SM and Relativity theories. He is actually quite scholarly and gives a properly referenced history of vortex structures in ancient and modern physics theories. He then goes on to show his own work with regard to modern physics. Far from being touched in the head, if anybody on this list is truly interested in vortices with regard to physics, they will want to read his book "Prime Elements of Ordinary Matter, Dark Matter & Dark Energy." Dave

