John!

A very succinct yet somewhat cryptic posting here.

What is it about?

If its about your request to join my closed research site, then as shown
below you received an email of the requirements for consideration. If you
did or do not like the requirements then why get Mcallister and vortex
involved? If this is the intent of the posting, 'to complain about the
requirements' then either forget it or join and lobby to get it changed.

Our closed system is working well and serving the intended purpose, 1) No
ego building and self stroking. 2) No misdirection or reputation
destruction. 3) Real work getting done, without excess and meaningless
rhetoric.

I must say in addition John that we have indeed turned away or set aside a
number of people that wanted access, fit is important.

You want peer review, well how do you get that when you are in the
exploration stages? We indent to release all information (good or bad) upon
project completion and doubt that we will be able to get peer review on on
it because it is not currently accepted by 'The Peers'.

Having said that John, why did you not address the issue in private mail? Or
has vortex now become the 'You Tube' of all issues, good bad or indifferent?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: john herman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:14 AM
  To: Stiffler Scientific
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kyle R. Mcallister;
vortex-l
  Subject: [Vo]: Applied Sciences Group CAN YOU????




   Dear Stiffler,

         I an when you wish to supply even general real world information...
as opposed to spotty.... I will be most happy to TRY to be a part.

       Please let me know what I would """submit""" to such a question
series... when YOU
   do not,  or can not put the first foot forward.

       I try NOT to pre judge anyone.... but, in the respect of genuine peer
to peer communications, such as I might see in the many national and
international conferences and forums I have attended and presented papers
before:

           Try to offer even five real world peer reviewed class papers or
pre publication type papers, where, for example, amps and volts, or
mass-weight-momentum, or the like are presented....

           Unless you can not, or will not....
   and If not...????  Why not???

             You put one foot forward, and I will be happy to respond 3
fold.

           JOHS

  On 3/14/07, Stiffler Scientific <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Thank you for requesting admission to the Stiffler Scientific Closed
    Research Group.

    If you have not already read the Membership and Project Rules, Please do
so
    at www.stifflerscientific.com/rules.asp

    The following information is required for consideration for admission.
    Please answer on the question line and when complete send the entire
content
    to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

    1) Your First Name:

    2) Your Last Name:

    3) Your Preferred Email Address:

    4) Your Academic Level:

    5) Your Primary Field of Research:

    6) Employed or Retired:

    7) Do you have access to a laboratory or research facility in which you
can
    perform experiments? (Yes - No):

    8) Why are you interested in the work going on at Stiffler Scientific?




    The following items will be submitted to the group for consideration of
your
    membership; 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8. No personal information is made available
    unless specifically authorized under the 'Membership Rules'.

    Once approved you will receive a UserName and Password for entry into
the
    closed system.

    If you are denied entry by the group, you will be sent the reason the
group
    presented for the denial.

    Thank you for the request and hope to welcome you to the group soon.

    Ronald Stiffler, D.Sc
    Stiffler Scientific



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