John! A very succinct yet somewhat cryptic posting here.
What is it about? If its about your request to join my closed research site, then as shown below you received an email of the requirements for consideration. If you did or do not like the requirements then why get Mcallister and vortex involved? If this is the intent of the posting, 'to complain about the requirements' then either forget it or join and lobby to get it changed. Our closed system is working well and serving the intended purpose, 1) No ego building and self stroking. 2) No misdirection or reputation destruction. 3) Real work getting done, without excess and meaningless rhetoric. I must say in addition John that we have indeed turned away or set aside a number of people that wanted access, fit is important. You want peer review, well how do you get that when you are in the exploration stages? We indent to release all information (good or bad) upon project completion and doubt that we will be able to get peer review on on it because it is not currently accepted by 'The Peers'. Having said that John, why did you not address the issue in private mail? Or has vortex now become the 'You Tube' of all issues, good bad or indifferent? -----Original Message----- From: john herman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:14 AM To: Stiffler Scientific Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kyle R. Mcallister; vortex-l Subject: [Vo]: Applied Sciences Group CAN YOU???? Dear Stiffler, I an when you wish to supply even general real world information... as opposed to spotty.... I will be most happy to TRY to be a part. Please let me know what I would """submit""" to such a question series... when YOU do not, or can not put the first foot forward. I try NOT to pre judge anyone.... but, in the respect of genuine peer to peer communications, such as I might see in the many national and international conferences and forums I have attended and presented papers before: Try to offer even five real world peer reviewed class papers or pre publication type papers, where, for example, amps and volts, or mass-weight-momentum, or the like are presented.... Unless you can not, or will not.... and If not...???? Why not??? You put one foot forward, and I will be happy to respond 3 fold. JOHS On 3/14/07, Stiffler Scientific <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you for requesting admission to the Stiffler Scientific Closed Research Group. If you have not already read the Membership and Project Rules, Please do so at www.stifflerscientific.com/rules.asp The following information is required for consideration for admission. Please answer on the question line and when complete send the entire content to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Your First Name: 2) Your Last Name: 3) Your Preferred Email Address: 4) Your Academic Level: 5) Your Primary Field of Research: 6) Employed or Retired: 7) Do you have access to a laboratory or research facility in which you can perform experiments? (Yes - No): 8) Why are you interested in the work going on at Stiffler Scientific? The following items will be submitted to the group for consideration of your membership; 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8. No personal information is made available unless specifically authorized under the 'Membership Rules'. Once approved you will receive a UserName and Password for entry into the closed system. If you are denied entry by the group, you will be sent the reason the group presented for the denial. Thank you for the request and hope to welcome you to the group soon. Ronald Stiffler, D.Sc Stiffler Scientific

