----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rout ICCF3 paper


> Michel Jullian wrote:
> 
>>I suppose this would be much more likely in a contact arrangement, 
>>they don't say if their barrier tests were done by direct contact or 
>>with some air gap between the Pd sample and the barrier.
> 
> Other papers from BARC say there was an air gap, usually or always -- 
> I am not sure.

Only sometimes, as Horace pointed out. In the specific case of their barrier 
tests they didn't say, so it might well have been a contact test. In which case 
H desorbing from Pd could well cross the micron thin barrier before 
energetically combining into H2 between the barrier and the film. It still can 
do so if there is an air gap, but the probability is much smaller.

> This was to eliminate the possibility that water or 
> other chemicals caused the autoradiographs to darken. That is 
> extremely unlikely, but they wanted to rule it out. They also ruled 
> it out by placing one film behind another and observing the same 
> pattern of radiation on both.

Mmm, I doubt this, since the radiation doesn't cross the film as they say quite 
explicitly in the paper (in the two-sided film they find that only the top 
emulsion is impressed).

Michel

> You can read more about the experiments 
> at BARC here:
> 
> http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/BARC.htm
> 
> - Jed
>

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