On Jul 6, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Zachary Jones wrote:
Vorts,
Setting aside that the video that started this thread doesn't look
setup (able?) to do Over Unity - are [some] magnet motors designs
an illusory OU, because of the energy needed to create the magnet?
To make sure I'm saying that intelligibly: does the energy needed
to create a strong magnet exceed the amount of "OU" energy that
comes back, i.e. from a Bedini design, etc? Bedini's designs are
interesting to me because of the proposed coupling between chemical
and ~magnetic operation - though, I still don't know enough about
my above question to ground my sense of the Bedini matter.
The main difficulty with answering this question is there is no
established energy output value to compare to the magnetization
energy. No one has an ou motor available for scientific scrutiny and
replication.
However, if any motor having practical output be found, I think it is
unlikely in the extreme the very small amount of energy required to
permanently (i.e. for years) magnetize present day magnets would be
larger than the output of the machine, assuming the machine is not
organized in a manner to quickly demagnetize its magnets through heat
and opposing fields. Even in the latter case flux conductors can
likely be used to separate the permanent magnets from the
demagnetizing influences.
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
