Hi Horace,

Glad to be of help!  Looks like you cancelled the extra Usenet
articles, unless Google's problems prevented them from posting 
in the first place.

In any case, Google Groups is now totally up to date.  You'd 
think they'd check it every hour or so (or write a script to 
do it automatically), since the failure occurs a couple times 
a year, but I guess they don't.  So it seems like a good idea 
for several people to call up when it happens and insist that 
the operator tell somebody in the Groups department that it 
isn't updating, so she'll realize that Google really does have 
a problem and she'll tell them.

If you (or anyone else here) want to access Usenet via some
other provider, and have any questions, feel free to contact me.

Usenet was the principal one-to-many Internet communication 
service -- broadcast Freedom of Speech for the non-wealthy that 
could actually reach large numbers of people -- before the Web 
was invented.  It originally employed the UUCP system -- automatic 
transmission of messages via dialup modem -- before there even 
was an Internet, or at least before most people could access the 
Internet, because there were no ISPs back then, and only 
universities and the government were connected.  

One big advantage of Usenet over the Web is that it's the standard 
central place for world communication about every subject 
imaginable, and for each subject there are usually only a few 
newsgroups appropriate to it, so you know where to look (and post).
Google's search facility is also very helpful.

The current unelected U.S. government would certainly like to 
censor the Internet; two bills to do that have already been 
introduced, and it could also be done by executive order.  They 
don't want people to get the evidence that the 9/11 attacks were 
carried out by the U.S. and Israeli governments, not those Arab 
patsies, that the reasons given for attacking Iraq were lies, 
and that the last two presidential elections were rigged.  They
want all broadcasting to be done via the corporate media, which
are owned by the same ruling class that controls the government.

So we might end up having to return to UUCP and Usenet, for 
communications critical to human survival.  Don't throw away 
those old modems, folks!

  Mark

On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 10:46:54AM -0800, Horace Heffner wrote:
>On Jul 19, 2007, at 7:19 AM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>>On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 12:51:54PM -0800, Horace Heffner wrote:
>>>Thank you very much for checking this out.  It will probably be a bit
>>>embarassing to folks like me who kept posting the same stuff over and
>>>over - when it eventually all comes to the surface.
>>
>>You're very welcome!  You may be able to delete the extra posts.
>>Usenet has a "cancel" mechanism for doing that.
>
>[snip wonderfully useful information (to me anyway)]
>
>I just posted a response to you not having read this post.  This is  
>really great stuff.  Thanks again.
>
>Horace Heffner
>http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
>
>

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