Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:

I can say this with absolute conviction:

This appears to be the same absolute conviction you feel with regard to the notion that Chinese people will spend a million dollars cleaning up a kilogram of used moderator heavy water instead of spending $300 to refine a new kilogram of the stuff, and they will sell the contaminated $1 million water to an unsuspecting customers at a huge loss, and the customers will not notice the deadly radiation it produces. Until a few days ago, people worldwide -- admittedly, even in China -- felt the same unshakable conviction that Chinese hot-bun vendors must be selling meat-buns made from cardboard.

Well at least - please get the details right. As it stands now, you are 0 for 6 in veracity in this one paragraph, and zero for ten in the single posting.

Here are the facts: I speculated that first-off the reprocessing was "highly unlikely", and second gave no estimate of what it costs them; but in point of fact, it would be closer to $50 than to one million per kg, since tritium has such a high melting point that it is easily removed in a filter freezing process; thirdly, I did not say nor imply that any customer would be unsuspecting; fourth gave every indication that the sales price they got would be for a huge profit, not a huge loss; fifth there is zero deadly radiation in reprocessed water: that's right **zero** (very easy to measure this) in fact D2O at 99.9% purity does have some impurity but if it were radioactive, any teen ager with a meter could find it; and sixth never mentioned anything at all about Chinese vendors of fortune cookies nor meat buns - only a corrupt government.

I did have a lot to say, and imply even more, about the Chinese government condoning many forms of radical mafiosa-style capitalism, including selling us contaminated food and toothpaste and hundreds of forged and counterfeit consumer items. This is unacceptable!

It just goes to show that some people will believe any damn thing, no matter how ridiculous.

Indeed it does.

Especially they will believe nonsense that makes people they distrust look bad, and feeds on racist stereotypes, like the pseudo-Confucianist fortune-cookie garbage you graced this forum with the other day, telling us about "the Chinese way."

The Chinese government does look bad, very bad! and we should rightfully distrust them in every detail - and distrust all non-democratic communist governments - and their motives! But not the Chinese people. The people there want out from under that burden as much as we want to see regime change.

There was no pseudo-anything. The quotes are from Confucianism, and it is you who are showing racial stereotyping by classifying it in the context of "fortune cookie garbage". You should be ashamed.

So far, you are zero for eight in accuracy. Shall we continue ?

There is NO single mechanism for CF, or any other form of LENR !!

I do not think many theorists would agree.

That is your opinion, which you had already offered - fine... but why not ask other theorists for their opinions first, before putting words in their mouth?

I certainly see reason to think this.

Then you have not looked closely at the many paper which indicate otherwise. This is reminiscent of Bob Park. He refuses to read any papers. You refuse to believe (or to publish!) those papers which you do not agree with. Especially ++ Claytor ++ and more especially ++ Swartz ++. These are two of the most important names in LENR and you steadfastly minimize their important contributions.

Methinks the crux of this silly mini-outburst on Rothwell's part is the recent mention of the fine work of Dr. Swartz... set in the context of Rothwell's prior and ongoing refusal to accept this one individual's enormous contribution - and compounded by the extraordinarily juvenile and disrespectful way in which Mitchell Swartz has been shunned by LENR-CANR.

... but once again - rather than face that important issue squarely - Rothwell wants to deflect criticism away from his real motives, and bring up something else as a smokescreen - which was from the very start offered as pure speculation. Nothing more.

...or did he forget to read that part?

Jones

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