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From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Pantone Mods


> Michel,
> 
> What do you think of the Quant'homme site?

Hi Jones, it's a big site and it looks messy to me, I looked at a few of the 
direct links you provided but all I can gather is that engines have been 
modified (they show photos and diagrams), I couldn't find for what purpose 
(more mileage presumably?) and with which results. Could you find any 
before/after mileage data as opposed to enthusiastic talk and mod diagrams?
 
> Certainly not peer reviewed (unless you are a Mec ;-)
>  but promising and 
> indicative of something, no?

For now I'll have to take your word for it :)

Michel

> 
> Moving on to the "next step" in a progression towards 100 MPG, Horace 
> suggested:
> 
> > Suppose the junk in the water were pyrolized in the water to obtain 
> water gas (CO + H + other things) using a generator on the motor 
> (already there in a hybrid) for arc power.
> 
> Yes. I thought of that too (applying a few kWe from the electrical 
> system - at the tank itself) but not an arc and not "pyrolysis" per se, 
> which requires too high a temperature -
> 
> ...and there is perhaps an easier additional way to get the benefit.
> 
> > It would be possible to feed ground up wood, charcoal, vegetable 
> oils, Algoil, garbage, all kinds of things into the fuel tank then. 
> Anything unburned in the exhaust would be recycled by passing the 
> exhaust through the water-fuel.
> 
> Yup, they have been doing that to some extent already. There is a 
> possible refinement of the above: at the tank - one can use straight 12 
> volt AC from the alternator to do the "aqua-gen" thing - which is not 
> simply passing current through the muck ... but doing so via the synergy 
> of using carbon based electrodes, which are slightly consumable.
> 
> In the event of the far future - and having no oil at all, we could make 
> the electrodes from compressed coal dust or charcoal (from biomass). The 
> advantage of this over Fischer-Tropsch is that no extra CO2 is produced 
> to get the H2, so carbon is maximized.
> 
> And there is one more additional thing which can be added. In the 
> reactor tube itself - make it of porous nickel so that it would pass 
> hydrogen but not CO2, nitrogen, or steam. To release some hydrogen from 
> the hot exhaust, one could set up a standing wave of RF down the axis of 
> this exhaust tube - maybe at a frequency of about 1640 Mhz which is the 
> resonance point of the OH radical.
> 
> Some H2 gas is separated there, and passes through the tube and into the 
> intake flow coming the other direction from the water tank. When some of 
> the H2 interacts with recycled CO2, prior to intake, you get CO and OH 
> and other goodies to reburn. The largest advantage of any enhanced 
> Pantone system could be on the oxidizer side, plus the higher flame 
> speed and mobility of a small addition of H2.
> 
> However, none of this may be needed with a highly catalytic reactor 
> tube. I doubt that many of the mods have actually plated Pd or Pt as a 
> catalyst. That is expensive - but hey - maybe then you also get a small 
> LENR or hydrino effect!
> 
> Jones
>

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