Esa Ruoho wrote:
check out the ravi raju replication of dave lawton replication of
stanley meyer water fuel cell.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Water_Fuel_Cell
Among other things, it says:
... demonstrated gas evolution at 0.2 Amps (12v) in distilled water
with no electrolyte. This is impossible by the known principles of
conventional electolysis ...
Now the last time I checked the redox potential for the electrolysis of
water was a few volts (need to run to the basement to get the exact
number). 12 volts is well above the minimum needed to split water. As
far as I know, the electrolyte does not participate in the reaction at
all -- it just makes it go faster. So, the claim that it's "impossible"
to evolve gas from distilled water at 12 volts appears to be nonsense.
If they claimed the _rate_ was far higher than conventional theory would
allow at 12 volts that would be different -- but it would also be hard
to prove, as I'm not sure it's possible to put a limit on the rate of
gas evolution based solely on the voltage.
If they claimed the rate of gas evolution was higher than the input
_power_ could account for that would also be interesting. But they
don't -- they claim it's higher than the Faradic rate, which is based on
the CURRENT ALONE. With voltage something like five times higher than
the minimum needed to make the reaction go it's no violation of anything
to get out more gas than the "Faradic" rate -- it just requires that a
different mechanism be at work, such as, say, pyrolysis in tiny hot
spots on the electrodes (just to pull one possibility out of the air).
Until the evolved gas volume is too large to be accounted for by the
input POWER (rather than the input CURRENT), it's not exciting news.
Note that the claim of cold fusion is very different: Power out is
larger than electrical power in. That's the big news; the occasional
violation of the Faradic gas evolution rate is rarely mentioned as more
than a footnote in most CF papers.
oh and hes been attacked too:
http://panacea-bocaf.org/EngineerinIndia.htm
but public information drop via panacea and youtube seemed to make it
all stop.
further ravi raju / panacea WFC info:
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/Meyerswatercell.htm
(yep, apparently they are replicating the dave lawton replication via
dave lawton, ravi raju and also the aussie part of it. should be
interesting to see what happens in the next 4 weeks.
and then theres Aaron Murakami's replication which combined the bedini
schoolgirl device and hydrogenproduction with 25watts.
in a way it seems to look like there could°be some serious
progress soon..
On 25/08/07, *R.C.Macaulay* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
The increase in research and experiments surrounding methods for
producing hydrogen is beginning to feed on itself.
What form and at what speed do you forecast the application of
hydrogen for energy?
Richard
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