So where is the information that there is one warhead missing coming from? Is 
it reliable?
Ron

--On Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:30 PM -0400 "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:



Jones Beene wrote:


PS As to the phony-baloney story of "why" the missile episode may have
occured, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

I don't think so.  They were "advanced" cruise missiles: that was the
_name_.  Presumably they were "advanced" when they were designed, but
that was over a decade ago.

The B-52 bomber they were on was designed 60 years ago and is still
operational. The problem is not the age - but why they were armed in the
first place,

Of course.  I was just observing that the name "advanced" was introducing an 
extra level of confusion here, as it's
literally the /name/ rather than a description.

As a name, it may or may not accurately describe them.

And the B-52 is _not_ an advanced bomber by today's standards, FWIW, though it 
is still operational.


and most-of-all - where the "extra" unaccounted-for warhead
is... is it in the hands of "rogue elements" of government?

It now turns out that the B-52 set on the tarmac in La, unguarded for 10
hours before this incident was reported.

Holy S***.

So, who in the world might want to steal one, would have the capacity to 
deliver it (i.e., has cruise missile
launchers on tap), and doesn't already have their own home-made (or U.S. 
provided) nuclear weapons?

And, we should add, who, among that group, might be able to get the cooperation 
of the U.S. government to make the
theft as easy as possible?

Not Israel -- they've got their own.

Not any European country -- they've already got U.S. nukes on their soil, no 
need to go abroad to steal one.  (Except
France where they've got their own, of course, and England where they've got 
their own, and Germany where they
supposedly manufacture nukes for the U.S. -- wish I could recall where I read 
that.)

Not Canada -- the U.S. govt would never allow it.

Terrorists?  (I mean, real ones, not CIA actors.)  This might make sense, if 
the govt is trying to arrange for an
incident within the U.S., said incident to be carried out by "real" terrorists 
rather than CIA actors.  And we need
to ask if terrorists could actually launch a cruise missile?  Or maybe they 
don't need to -- as dedicated idealists
(in their own cause) they don't have much need to "throw" the thing a good safe 
distance before it goes off; in fact
they're willing to detonate it manually.

CIA actors?  ... Nah, there has to be a simpler way to arrange an 
interdepartmental transfer of a few warheads from
DOE to CIA.



Afterwards, there has been the
slight discrepancy of one warhead between the "official" accounts.

As to how or why it could happen -- did you ever wonder whether they
REALLY have nuclear tipped cruise missiles in the arsenal?  No, you
didn't?  Well, perhaps not.  But, did you ever wonder if President
Ahmadinejad has ever wondered if we REALLY have nuclear-tipped cruise
missiles in our current arsenal, I mean, right now, ready to roll, all
set to be put on planes and launched?

He is no fool. Of course he knows this. That was not the purpose of this
episode.

No, probably not -- it had just occurred to me that, in a country which is fond 
of rattling its sabers ferociously,
this appears to have been, intentional or not, another rather blatant example 
of a very loud rattle of a saber.


No one in the public knows if this was simply an "innocent" f_ _ k-up -
or if there is something more sinister going-on, but given the high
level disregard for the City of New Orleans, already well demonstrated,

hmmm .... doubt if I would be going to a favorite "watering hole": Pat
O'Briens ... even if Dick generously offered a free trip (followed by
bird hunting of course) ....

http://www.patobriens.com/









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