On Sep 16, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

Horace Heffner wrote:

Lots of updates have occurred to the Deflation Fusion article, which is now at Draft #20.

Horace,

Nice argument and presentation, even though some will remain unconvinced. Please do not take the following as being overly critical. There is deep thinking involved on your part, which should not be minimized, and perhaps the objections voiced below are asking too much at this juncture (but after all, it is up to #20 ;-)

Yes, lots of drafts, lots more to come, hopefully. That's partly because I have very little time to work on this right now. I will continue to update regularly because my life expectancy may be inversely proportional to the apparent significance of the work. 8^) I still haven't written the summary section that lays out the engineering principles, as promised at the front of the paper. The experiments and cell design types I'm not happy with yet and probably should go into another paper anyway.



FWIW, let me state these objections from the perspective of an observer who believes in the reality of LENR, but favors an alternative but admittedly less developed and more nebulous modus operandi, not involving a resort to nearly unmeasurable time scale. The last being more of a problem with 'falsifiability' than anything else.


The above statement implies there is some choice in how nature works. There is a difference between describing a natural mechanism, phenomenon, and then using it to design something useful. The natural mechanism exists as is. We have no choice about that. Our only choice is how approximate a model is used to describe the phenomenon. The better the model the better the ability to engineer intended results. The description is science, the application is engineering.



First, the best part of the argument is the wave-function material, and the experiment which derives from the argument. Every good hypothesis should come with a suggested experiment designed to test it. If anything it would not hurt to expound on those point and especially the wave-function (should you move to #21, which no doubt is already in progress ;-)

The main problem there, which is somewhat glossed over, is the vast decrease in probability (in general) of multi-body reactions, over two-body reactions.

You seem to be overlooking the high probability of the deflated hydrogen state.

This is also a problem for some of Mills' arguments. Is there any more specific (to your model) factor which alters this normal expectation, and if so- that should be emphasized. You kind of hit on it in the bit about the "multi-stage" process, and high volume of interactions, but that would be arguably true under any circumstances (any model) it would seem. And "multiple stages" itself is incompatible with the notion of such a short lifetime, unless reaching one plateau somehow extends the lifetime above the attosecond scale.

There is no need to extend the *lifetime* of the deflated state. In fact, that is likely impossible, due to Heisenberg considerations. What is engineered is its probability, i.e. its frequency of existence. There is a limit to the amount of time energy can be borrowed for an event, but the rate at which energy can be repetitively borrowed is apparently astronomical.



Anyway, my main problem in general (coming from the POV of a fence- straddler on both the Mills' hydrino and the Dufour hydrex) is that you have not made a convincing argument about how, exactly, your model is very different (other than a much shorter time scale). Maybe the time scale is enough, but to me it simply suggests a predecessor state of hydrex, for instance.

To be rigorous, my suggestion (swish list) is to take each of the alternatives:
1) hydrino (or Robin's faux variation)
2) hydrex
3) protoneutron
4) di-neutron
5) Widom/Larsen

... and at least give a little detail on the pluses and minuses of each wrt to the deflated hydrogen model.


The difference will be in which concepts are ultimately proved to be right, to actually exist, and to be practical to utilize.


To say that the main difference is an existence in the attosecond time frame, to my thinking, not a sufficient clarification.

Again, you are overlooking the astronomical effective frequency of occurrence of the deflated hydrogen state, even when the hydrogen nucleus is in a molecular site. It is a ghost-like alternate existence for the nucleus. This state can be thought of as (1) providing a tunneling target for hydrogen otherwise diffusing through the lattice, and (2) having its own probability of tunneling as a combined electron-nucleus body. The fact the deflated state entity is neutral greatly affects the probability of a given tunneling outcome being within fusion range. It significantly reduces the width of the Coulomb barrier - and in fact momentarily makes it disappear, makes it irrelevant. This enormously increases the probability of a fusion event.

A hydrogen nucleus diffusing through a lattice does so by tunneling from its occupied site to a vacant site. Tunneling to an adjacent unoccupied site is energetically favorable for a hydrogen occupying a site adjacent to multiple occupied sites, i.e. in a high fugacity environment. An adjacent site occupied by a deflated state hydrogen nucleus provides a tunneling opportunity for a hydrogen nucleus because the Coulomb barrier is down with some probability. If the tunneling event occurs, but not to a locus close enough to cause fusion (which is not possible when the Coulomb barrier is up), then when the deflated nucleus is unveiled, the hydrogen tunneling event can be reversed, or the tunneling chain of events is moved forward to a lower fugacity site, or fusion can occur by a follow-on tunneling event. In a fully loaded environment, a momentarily unoccupied cell will have multiple candidates likely to tunnel simultaneously into it. If one or more of the tunneling candidates tunnel in deflated state, or if the cell is not actually unoccupied but merely occupied by a deflated state nucleus (which appears to the neighboring nuclei as unoccupied), then deflation fusion opportunities are maximal.

The deflation fusion model provides a set of principles for increasing fusion likelyhood: (1) maximize the *combined* fugacity and diffusion rate (neither is useful without the other), (2) maximize orbital stress to increase the probability of the deflated state, and (3) maximize electron fugacity in order to increase the electron quantum states, i.e. aggregate electron energies, and thus further objectives (1) and (2) as well as provide an energy focusing effect. It further appears providing periodic barriers to the conduction band electrons increases LENR probability. This either (a) increases the probability of multiple nuclei tunneling to common electron or, more likely, (b) necessitates tunneling through the barrier in deflated state, thus maximizing the chances of a Coulomb barrier defeating event.

The backside de-loading scheme, in various incarnations, was designed to achieve the all above objectives simultaneously. High temperature loading, followed by cooling to some extent, is designed to especially achieve (2), while also increasing thermodynamic efficiency and choice of lattice materials. High electrical resistance of the hot lattice, combined with a strong through-lattice- current driven diffusion then fulfill the other objectives.

The above explanations are expressed in a serialized Newtonian form, so as to be understandable. It may well be that in reality these things only exist as potentialities, amplitudes which result in final outcomes with some probability based on simultaneous multiple complex inputs. A step-wise process model gives us a comfortable means of understanding that which is otherwise too complex to comprehend or describe.

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Anyway - most provocative. Keep up the good work!

Thanks.



Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/



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